Alpha male or not Alpha male..

[Syne]

Poor naive little Guardian contributor. Yes, he does want to sleep with them, but wore you down first (the benefits of settling).

A provider or protector, both of which I have no need.  If that’s all men have to offer in the way of friendship then I guess I’m not really missing out on much, am I?

Good to know.

Thanks!

Who said providers don't protect...or even that alpha males were white knights? Seems you've only confirmed what I've said.

Just like providers are devalued in an era of social safety nets, protectors are devalued in an era of peace, police, and relatively low crime. Neither of which really reflect on the value of an alpha male. You wanted to be friends with men for a reason, and I'm sure material resources and protection didn't play into that desire. I wonder if you're self-aware enough to figure out what you wanted from male friends that you couldn't get from women. I'll bet it starts with a "V".

[Secular Sanity]

Painful world we live in, isn't it. And is that because the 16 commandments are true, or because they aren't?
You tell me.

7. Withdrawing all her love and all her body in an instant will rend your soul if you are faced with contemplating the empty abyss alone.

Do you remember what it was like when you first look into it?  How did it feel when you realized what you were and where you had been?  Did you wonder how many others could cross that threshold? Did you ever hope that you’d stumble onto snoopes one day and discover that it was all just a spoof—that they really did know? How did you feel when you realized that it would never happen?  

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Orwell's quote reflect Nietzsche's, doesn't it? 

I had thought about all the symbolism—all the social constructs...but one. I didn't realize that one-half of mankind thought of us as weak—a cost.  I thought it was a spoof—just childish schoolyard taunts that were carried over into adulthood. I didn't know. Silly girl, eh?

[Syne]

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/fXTSJUnphCg

[confused2]

She's cute.

[Syne]

And honest/knows herself.

[Syne]

Another woman's perspective:

As fascinating as the topic of the Instinctive Design of Erotic Attention* was really, it’s the bronco ride of co-creating with an alpha male that lifts my skirt these days.

My recent collaboration inspires me to reflect on the five things women tend to do when we’re with an alpha male. But first, I suppose, we should ask, What are the signs you’ve got an alpha male on your hands?

He’s Unpredictable. Check. Powerfully assertive yet yielding at the right moments. Check. He’s an unabashed, indomitable and at times he’s an unstoppable leader. Yet, as strong as he appears, a superior alpha male bows gracefully to feminine intelligence whenever she shows a face wiser than his own. Double Check.

The five things we tend to do are run, put him above us, contend, control or cultivate and then ride on the curves of his magic. Any of these options may be correct depending on the man and the time. The approaches you choose will either take you into tangled webs of disappointment or they will intensify the quality of happiness in your intimate relations with men.
- https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/201405121...lpha-male/

[Secular Sanity]

"Behind every great man’s fall is a woman."

Apparently, Jordan Peterson blames us for wage stagnation. The introduction of the pill has had a negative impact on society.  According to him, birth control has led to the fall of man.  He said that it allowed women to compete in the same domains as men, which doubled the labor force.  We went from a situation where women could work to where a woman has to work, and now we’re going into a situation where women will work because men won’t.  He said there’s an article showing that 50% of boys in school are having trouble with their basic subjects. He said that 90% of his classes are women and there won’t be a damn man left in university in ten years.  He said it was a complete bloody catastrophe and a catastrophe for women because we won’t be able to find anyone to marry.  He goes on to say that "And you think when you’re nineteen because you’re so clueless when you’re nineteen—you don’t know a bloody thing, you think I’m not sure that I really want children anyways.  Oh yeah, you can tell how well you’ve been educated. Dismal! It’s a very rare woman who at the age of thirty doesn’t consider having a child as her primary desire. The ones that don’t consider that, generally in my observation, there’s something that isn’t quite right.  Sometimes you get a woman who isn’t maternal that has a masculine temperament but they’re disagreeable and not particularly compassionate."

Wow! He’s a piece of work, eh? And just think, they have to pay to listen to that shit. I'd demand a refund. You need to pull your head out of his ass and start thinking for yourself. 

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/LDKxpZfsN6Y

[Syne]

"Behind every great man’s fall is a woman."

That's not a Peterson quote, even though you seem to want to lead people to think so.

Apparently, Jordan Peterson blames us for wage stagnation. The introduction of the pill has had a negative impact on society.  According to him, birth control has led to the fall of man.  He said that it allowed women to compete in the same domains as men, which doubled the labor force.  We went from a situation where women could work to where a woman has to work, and now we’re going into a situation where women will work because men won’t.  He said there’s an article showing that 50% of boys in school are having trouble with their basic subjects. He said that 90% of his classes are women and there won’t be a damn man left in university in ten years.  He said it was a complete bloody catastrophe and a catastrophe for women because we won’t be able to find anyone to marry.  He goes on to say that "And you think when you’re nineteen because you’re so clueless when you’re nineteen—you don’t know a bloody thing, you think I’m not sure that I really want children anyways.  Oh yeah, you can tell how well you’ve been educated. Dismal! It’s a very rare woman who at the age of thirty doesn’t consider having a child as her primary desire. The ones that don’t consider that, generally in my observation, there’s something that isn’t quite right.  Sometimes you get a woman who isn’t maternal that has a masculine temperament but they’re disagreeable and not particularly compassionate."

Wow! He’s a piece of work, eh? And just think, they have to pay to listen to that shit. I'd demand a refund. You need to pull your head out of his ass and start thinking for yourself. 

No, doubling the labor force has a natural consequence of devaluing the labor. Basic economics, regardless of where the increased labor force comes from. Same consequence as an influx of migrant workers. And being able to stave off pregnancy does contribute to that. You'd have to be a blind, probably willfully, to deny either of those objective facts. It's hilarious how you quote him as if it's damning on the face of it. All the while apparently oblivious to your own misandrist bias.

Don't women want to marry successful, educated men? Maybe you wanted to marry a milksop, but then why the need to seek validation from other men? O_o

[Secular Sanity]

You're going to have to do better than that.  You're really starting to bore me. 

Why do you think men are struggling in school?  Could it be that they're too busy seeking validation—out drinking and trying to get laid?

[Syne]

You're going to have to do better than that.  You're really starting to bore me. 

Why do you think men are struggling in school?  Could it be that they're too busy seeking validation—out drinking and trying to get laid?

Contrary to you, I'm not seeking validation here...quite the opposite in fact.
It's none of my concern if objective facts bore you...but that might be why you have trouble feeling validated by men.

There's many reasons men don't go to college, and the ability to party with a favorable male/female ratio ain't one of them.
They can often take 18-month vocational training to earn more than a new college graduate, without even half the debt.
Quite aside from the poisonous, misandrist attitudes toward men on many campuses.
And why work so hard to earn when the odds of divorce and losing half your crap is so high and the government has displaced you as a provider?

Adding to the possibility of a greater investment in professional careers was the availability of the contraceptive "pill." Women could better plan their futures. [since you don't belief Peterson]
...
Another aspect in the reversal of the college gender gap, rather than just its elimination, is the persistence of behavioral and developmental differences between males and females. Boys often mature more slowly than girls. In grades K-12, boys tend to have a higher incidence of behavioral problems (or lower level of non-cognitive skills) than girls. Girls spend more time doing homework than boys. These behavioral factors, after adjusting for family background, test scores, and high school achievement, can explain virtually the entire female advantage in getting into college for the high school graduating class of 1992, the authors figure. It allowed "girls to leapfrog over boys in the race to college." Similarly, teenage boys, both in the early 1980s and late 1990s, had a higher (self-reported) incidence of arrests and school suspensions than teenage girls.
- http://www.nber.org/digest/jan07/w12139.html

Schooling at all levels has been designed, largely by female educators, to best accommodate female behavior.