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(May 10, 2018 08:44 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: You can indeed exchange exist for reality but the way it is stated reflects the perfect analytic self-containment of reality which does not result in error. I don't understand what "perfect analytic self-containment of reality" means or what it has to do with error (or with God). (May 10, 2018 09:41 PM)Yazata Wrote:(May 10, 2018 08:44 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: You can indeed exchange exist for reality but the way it is stated reflects the perfect analytic self-containment of reality which does not result in error. Your discouraging ignorance does not inspire much confidence regarding the CTMU, I can only suggest you familiarize yourself with the self-containment of reality. You can welcome new information and experience as much satisfaction as any god would feel at the birth of existence. THE GENIUS AND TALENT OF THE ONE IS EVIDENT AND ALL AROUND US IN CREATION. YOU ARE THAT. You might also wish to familiarize yourself with general principles such as syndiffeonesis and multiplex unity. (May 10, 2018 08:51 PM)Ostronomos Wrote:(May 10, 2018 08:45 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(May 10, 2018 03:35 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: God or reality operates by sentential logic. As a response, I repeat my previous question to you. You know Ostro, I don't care if your red is my green. You assume all brains see alike. Well I know from being synesthetic that they don't. I wonder if Synethesia would also cover other senses or affect thinking patterns? I think if you're looking for a near perfect system then search no further than evolution. I don't ever expect everyone to be alike, it would be unnatural IMHO. Seems to me at least that our brains have evolved to interpret light/sight in various ways. If we don't see reality exactly as it is then that doesn't really matter as far as life on Earth is concerned. The genius and talent you speak of is in the system that allows for life to flourish and survive. Maybe someday being a metaphysical thinker will enable life to survive a cataclysmic event, who knows but at least evolution seems like it's preparing for all emergencies. (May 11, 2018 12:34 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(May 10, 2018 08:51 PM)Ostronomos Wrote:(May 10, 2018 08:45 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:(May 10, 2018 03:35 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: God or reality operates by sentential logic. The only way two brains would perceive reality differently (unless taking into account objective differences such as special relativity), is if one of them is wrong or incorrectly perceives. Quote:I think if you're looking for a near perfect system then search no further than evolution. I don't ever expect everyone to be alike, it would be unnatural IMHO. Seems to me at least that our brains have evolved to interpret light/sight in various ways. If we don't see reality exactly as it is then that doesn't really matter as far as life on Earth is concerned. The genius and talent you speak of is in the system that allows for life to flourish and survive. Maybe someday being a metaphysical thinker will enable life to survive a cataclysmic event, who knows but at least evolution seems like it's preparing for all emergencies. The physiological function of the human eye has evolved in a way that mimics the rest of the species. Unless it doesn't work well. This is because there is only one reality we can see, and thus one perception of it. Our brains mirror reality. If a difference in interpretation exists then someone has got it wrong. Don't insist on using artforms as an example that I am wrong because I am not. There is the perfect way, then there's every other way. Christopher Langan: Obviously, I was "chosen" to channel the theory into existence and to disseminate it as possible. That's a matter of history, and I offer no apologies for it. I’ll try to answer this and w/o referencing or reading Chris Langan’s own response beforehand. The CTMU principles which are axiomatically self apparent, generalize the concept of “being”, meaning any sort of object, idea, or era, into a generic concept of an “infocognitive syntactic transducer”. A transducer simultaneously acts as both transmitter and receiver of information in any and all syntactic exchanges between transducers. “Infocognition” references the dual character of any “thing” (object, idea, or era) as both informational and cognitive (cognitive generically meaning “subject to processing in a universally coherent manner”, per how science, logic, and math and the formal rules thereof generally apply to things). Understanding that any and all “things” or “beings” are essentially two-way “transducers” in the sense of syntactic coherence with other such “things”, we can refer to any possible coherent “object” of our consideration as a “syntactic operator”. The global coherence by which disparate “syntactic operators” abide, implies a common “syntax” by which they operate. Implicated by a common syntax is a “global” domain or “universe” in which all functionality proceeds. In the CTMU, the global domain or universe is modeled as entirely and reflexively equivalent to the collective states of various operators, the global structure or domain is thus equivalent to the syntax by which various operators transform. This global structure or universe which is equivalent to the distributed syntax or “laws” by which things transform is itself modeled as the “Global Operator/Designer” or G.O.D in the CTMU. Regardless of how you wish to interpret “God”, “G.O.D.” is a logical (global) structure in any self-containing and self describing universe. Taken from: https://www.quora.com/How-does-Christoph...e-of-a-god
The CTMU as a theory presents a scientific model of a God that is both accurate and comprehensive. The notion of a thing or being is generalized to that of a syntactic operator (operating syntactically) with complete read/write capability. Christ would be mathematically included in this model.
The universe or domain in which we exist and in which human thought exists allows existence to be contemplative by processing information between these operators. What more can you ask of reality than that of being an information processor? CTMU shows how direct communication from God as divine activity is only possible within a self-contained or closed reality. A syntactic operator is a reality embedded entity without which contemplation and intelligence would not be possible as intelligence operates syntactically. Where the global coherence by which these operators abide, implies a common syntax by which they operate. Since the universe or domain is equivalent to the collective states of these operators.
"Organisms, being mechanical in the deterministic sense, need not be distinguished in this extension. Nondeterminism can be used to subtly manipulate recognition, thus cryptically modifying an acceptor's reality. Nondeterministic recognition can help to explain the ability of an acceptor to rapidly sieze certain kinds of higher-order phenomena, or even interact with higher-order agencies ordinarily insensible to it."
(The Resolution of Newcomb's Paradox, Langan, 1989) http://megasociety.org/noesis/44/newcomb.html http://megasociety.org/noesis/44/intro.html http://megasociety.org/noesis/58/05.htm http://megasociety.org/noesis/46/index.html http://megasociety.org/noesis/45/index.html "God and His telic-causal "bots" can manifest in the human mind at any time. And by manifesting in the human mind, they can manifest in reality, which has an inseparable mental aspect."
What is it? 3.5 billion years for humans to evolve on Earth. Complete with enough intelligence to believe they can sense a god. This god apparently just is, perfect with no ancestry, non evolved & and no physical form, omnisicient and either existing in the true reality or some other perceived reality. As an evolutionist it is entirely possible that an evolved god belief is a mutation that has proved beneficial to the human life form's survival. Life, the biochemical process, doesn't care how or what but to survive. You, Langan, myself may have some endearing quality, including slinging BS on this forum, that will prolong life.
If you want an entity then make one of life. At least life prepares for an unknown future, and it doesn't need to be sentient, omniscient, or personified. It actually prepares for all life forms including us. It's a good thing too, or else we probably wouldn't be here to shoot the crap. (May 12, 2018 01:48 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: What is it? 3.5 billion years for humans to evolve on Earth. Complete with enough intelligence to believe they can sense a god. This god apparently just is, perfect with no ancestry, non evolved & and no physical form, omnisicient and either existing in the true reality or some other perceived reality. As an evolutionist it is entirely possible that an evolved god belief is a mutation that has proved beneficial to the human life form's survival. Life, the biochemical process, doesn't care how or what but to survive. You, Langan, myself may have some endearing quality, including slinging BS on this forum, that will prolong life. As far as we know evolution has been about the futility of survival. But eventually evolution itself will no longer be about this. It will become a singularity of not merely the physical body but the evolution of mind. Human beings will act to evolve according to a new cycle of replication and selection. Evolution and its dominance principle would then be intelligently directed by us on a personal and global level. But lest not forget the resolution to Newcomb's Paradox by Langan. Evolution of the transpersonal, impersonal, and personal spirit/ mind/ body. |
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