Family killed in cliff crash likely intentional

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Quote:I would have had nothing at all to say about this family.

I think you've said enough about people you don't even know. At this point you should just shut up about it. Capitalizing on people's deaths to make some anti-gay political point is about as low as it goes.

Quote:Considering the much higher rate of suicide among LGBT, the adoption of all these children by lesbians may have contributed to their deaths
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#12
Again, I'm making my usual plea for more mental health attention for LGBT.
Not only is it needed, this case shows that it could save the lives of not only the suicidal but innocent bystanders as well.

The first step is to admit there's a problem.
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#13
Quote:Again, I'm making my usual plea for more mental health attention for LGBT.
Not only is it needed, this case shows that it could save the lives of not only the suicidal but innocent bystanders as well.

So how would that work exactly? Mandatory mental health screening by the state of all LGBTs? Sounds like a prelude to the 1940's when gays and lesbians were often committed to psych wards for their "abnormal impulses". Thankfully it is now 2018 and LGBTs are no longer stigmatized as abnormal or mentally ill. You're 70 years too late phobe.
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(Apr 3, 2018 02:55 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Again, I'm making my usual plea for more mental health attention for LGBT.
Not only is it needed, this case shows that it could save the lives of not only the suicidal but innocent bystanders as well.

So how would that work exactly? Mandatory mental health screening by the state of all LGBTs? Sounds like a prelude to the 1940's when gays and lesbians were often committed to psych wards for their "abnormal impulses". Thankfully it is now 2018 and LGBTs are no longer stigmatized as abnormal or mentally ill. You're 70 years too late phobe.
Nothing of the sort.
It's exactly that sort of paranoia that keeps LGBT from seeking help, and even discouraging other LGBT from doing so. They're so afraid of either confirming a stereotype or finding out their identity is abnormal that they avoid such help, often compounding the problem by self-medicating with various recreational substances.
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#15
Quote:They're so afraid

No..they're not afraid at all. They're just living their lives and loving like all normal people do and disproving by the millions that there's nothing wrong with them and never has been. The only ones who are afraid are you homophobes, of which there are fewer and fewer every year. How does it feel to be a dwindling minority of cultural outsiders that nobody listens to anymore?
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(Apr 3, 2018 04:42 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: They're just living their lives and loving like all normal people do and disproving by the millions that there's nothing wrong with them and never has been.

It's called denial, especially in the face of suicide rate statistics.
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#17
Quote:It's called denial, especially in the face of suicide rate statistics.

School bullying, religious family rejection, job discrimination, internalized homophobia,...all plausible causes for higher suicide rate.
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(Apr 3, 2018 06:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It's called denial, especially in the face of suicide rate statistics.

School bullying, religious family rejection, job discrimination, internalized homophobia,...all plausible causes for higher suicide rate.

All potential catalysts for mental illness, although LGBT are statistically more vulnerable to these than similar stressors for the general population. No one goes from one to the other bypassing mental illness. But the direct causal fairytale seems to keep people from seeking help. Justification for denial.
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#19
Quote:No one goes from one to the other bypassing mental illness.

No...the environmental stressors are enough to explain the suicide rate. Adding mental illness is an unnecessary and unevidenced postulation.
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(Apr 3, 2018 08:41 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:No one goes from one to the other bypassing mental illness.

No...the environmental stressors are enough to explain the suicide rate. Adding mental illness is an unnecessary and unevidenced postulation.

More denial, to the detriment of LGBT who should be encouraged to seek the help they need...and potentially save lives.
When the LGBT suicide rate is higher than those of Jews in Nazi concentration camps, environmental stressors do not tell the whole story. Or do you think LGBT in modern America are being tortured and starved? According to reports, it was this lesbian couple that was starving their adopted children.
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