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Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?

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https://qz.com/1115269/would-the-world-b...n-leaders/

EXCERPT: [...] But these examples are anecdotal because, throughout history, women leaders have been extremely rare. Between 1950 and 2004, according to data compiled by Katherine W. Phillips, professor of leadership and ethics at Columbia Business School, just 48 national leaders across 188 countries—fewer than 4% of all leaders—have been female. They included 18 presidents and 30 prime ministers. Two countries, Ecuador and Madagascar, had a woman leader, each of whom served for a mere two days before being replaced by a man.

Given the tiny sample size, does it even make sense to ask if, given power, women are more or less likely than men to wage wars? The medical anthropologist Catherine Panter-Brick, who directs the conflict, resilience and health program at the MacMillan Center for International and Area Studies at Yale University, thinks not. “It stereotypes gender, and assumes leadership is uncomplicated,” she told me. Perhaps she had thinkers such as Stephen Pinker in her sights. In The Better Angels of Our Nature (2011), his study of violence throughout history, Pinker wrote: “women have been, and will be, the pacifying force.” That assumption is not always grounded in reality, says Mary Caprioli, a professor of political science at the University of Minnesota Duluth...

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Syne Offline
No. When polled, 33% of women want men as leaders...because they know, first hand, the cattiness and often vindictive jealousy of other women.
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(Oct 31, 2017 07:28 PM)Syne Wrote: No. When polled, 33% of women want men as leaders...because they know, first hand, the cattiness and often vindictive jealousy of other women.

I've worked with a lot of men. Men are just as bad. We're really not all that different.

I was just thinking about this the other day and then this article came out.

What if women were physically stronger than men?
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Syne Offline
Anecdotal.
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Oct 31, 2017 07:28 PM)Syne Wrote: No. When polled, 33% of women want men as leaders...because they know, first hand, the cattiness and often vindictive jealousy of other women.

Myth.
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Syne Offline
"The Gallup poll data showing more people preferred a male boss when they did have a gender preference was based on both male and female respondents. However, their results match up with a Fairygodboss poll which had 100% female respondents. Among Fairygodboss women, 40% of those surveyed said that male and female bosses were equally supportive of them, followed by male bosses, with female bosses coming in last. So, it seems that even among women, a larger percentage prefer having a male boss over a female one." - https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgenehua...5d0d6b2ebb


"The survey, which collected responses from 1,032 adults living in the U.S., found women were more likely than men to want a male boss: 39 percent of women wanted to be led by a man, compared with 26 percent of men.

In the 60 years that Gallup has conducted this survey, women have never preferred a female boss.

The lack of faith in female leadership among some women may be partly related to widespread negative perceptions of women in charge, documented in scientific studies and at length in Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg’s book, Lean In.

A growing pile of evidence suggests that women mistrust, and can undermine, one another at work. In a 2010 survey of 142 legal secretaries, not one preferred to work for a woman partner (about 47 percent had no preference).
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A 2011 survey found that 95 percent of working women felt they were undercut by another woman at least once during their professional life. In a 2008 study, women working for female supervisors experienced more stress than those who had male supervisors, reported the Wall Street Journal."
- https://finance.yahoo.com/news/women-pre...40079.html


While the actual cattiness may not statistically come from bosses, the expectation is from interactions between female coworkers.
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(Oct 31, 2017 08:35 PM)Syne Wrote: https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgenehua...5d0d6b2ebb

Yeah, your acrticle was similar to the one that I posted.

From your link...

…Be honest: do you have a preference for a male or female boss? If you don’t, you’re not quite in the majority but you’re in good company with a plurality of Americans polled for whom a manager's gender makes no difference to them.

This is refreshing fact at a time when the battle for the ultimate management job (President of the United States) is being fought in part, through a gender lens. But for those who express a gender preference, why are people more than 50% likely to prefer a male boss over a female boss? Is this simply unconscious bias at work?

Yesterday, the WSJ published results of analysis that may provide one explanation for the difference. Professors LisaWilliams  of Goizueta Business School at Emory University and Larissa Tiedens of Stanford’s Graduate School of Business found that women are penalized for being “too aggressive”, even if their behavior is identical to men’s. They concluded:

“Women were particularly penalized for direct, explicit forms of assertiveness, such as negotiating for higher salary or asking a neighbor to turn down the music. Dominance that took a verbal form seemed especially tricky for women, compared to men making identical requests.”

…Moreover, I can’t help suspect that for those women who have had a single or double bout of a bad experience with a female boss, there may be little subsequent opportunity to rectify their views. After all, there are relatively few female managers to begin with - so an isolated negative experience can be extrapolated far beyond its statistical significance.
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Syne Offline
Doesn't change the fact that, between the genders, people dislike women bosses most, even only polling women.
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(Oct 31, 2017 08:02 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Oct 31, 2017 07:28 PM)Syne Wrote: No. When polled, 33% of women want men as leaders...because they know, first hand, the cattiness and often vindictive jealousy of other women.

Myth.

not totally convinced it is a Myth.
i think it is mythical as it contains various aspects.
  • (sorry for breaking the sisterhood code of silence but it is 2017 & there is still no equal pay or equal rights of physical protection in western societys(domestic violence/domestic homicide).
i think (in some circumstances)women in their expereince are happier to allow a man to make the overall final descision on things because they know it is easier to manage the others who oppose that descision.
the proxy authority gives a sense of de-personalisation that women think is much easier for most people to deal with emotionally.

thus it is a smart move when you have a low emotional intelligence level.

also in heavily mysoginistic industrys and profesions it is much better to have a male as manager because of the vile & vindictive nature of those other males who will target the female.


so for the likes of syne, it is far better for them to think that women think that because it satiates their personal morality & ideology(mostly religious dogma).



personaly i have worked with more female managers than male managers.
over all male managers(though i have had 1 or 2 very good ones) are, on the whole not up to the emotional capability to deal with psychological management and care of a team of males & females.

what i have found is the difference between old world women and modern women.
women who have been raised through the 50's & 60's though some are exceptionally well balanced, there is a sizable proportion whom are very sexist.(should be no surprise)

and i am not going to mention the religous sexism and child marriage(child sexual slavery done under the baner of christianity, islamism, hindu etc... or any other religion) that is normalised in many countrys, the USA included.


soo before i could answer the question i would have to ask this...
what intellectual and emotional age are the men ?

and ... all those surveys done inside companys on what employees think of their managers performance..
they are all tracked.
they know who gives a good or bad result.
not to mention that the surveys are actually just used for ticket punching.
there is only 1 type of real way a manager is evaluated properly.

surveys on managers do not ask the gender of the manager.
thus Synes comment about male/female manager preference is completely biased as it relys on the majority of employees whom have male managers to make a comment against their male manager in an open forum... not to mention the question of WHOM is collecting the data for who ... and for what purpose.
truly independant surveys do not exist in the business world as they are pay-per-play.
no one pays, nothing is surveyed.


meanwhile .. here is an example of some data which i attribute no personal acclaim to of validity accuracy or any other intonation.
p.s i best note, i found this gallup result by chance and have been told on several occasions that gallup are one of the better companys.
my main point here is pointing out work place performance as a process of  work place socialisation with employees and their managers, the better the level of emotional and intellectual intelligence the better the quailty of the performance.


http://news.gallup.com/businessjournal/1...agers.aspx


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i am just wanting to edificate any younger viewers here...
you may not be aware of unconscious bias and so in like you may not be aware on biased questions being used in a survey to give a sexist result.

there are various questions that are used to target female employees &/or male employees to define a better or worse outcome for the manager depending on their gender and/or the gender of the employees.
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Syne Offline
(Nov 1, 2017 08:24 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: (sorry for breaking the sisterhood code of silence but it is 2017 & there is still no equal pay or equal rights of physical protection in western societys(domestic violence/domestic homicide).

The gender wage gap is a thoroughly debunked myth, and there are equal rights to protection...at least in states where everyone can own a gun...which evens the natural strength discrepancy between the sexes.
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