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Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?

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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 1, 2017 09:17 PM)C C Wrote: RE: article topic, Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?

Since individual women would be plugged into administrative offices that were created during the patriarchal era, and thereby subject to the template of standards, traditions, advice, policies, strategies and role-playing expectations of those offices which were likewise formulated and entrenched during the reign of men... Then I don't see how a female leader could fully get "in touch" with and exercise any supposed alternative, "matriarchal worldview" that would end or feature fewer wars, anyway. As _X_ female leader would be constrained by those pre-existing institutions, forms of management and systemic evaluation of the quality of that management under _X_ leader.

Even the anti-West fervor of those late, Marxist variants born in the 20th century, touting what amounts to some Rorty-esque "no culture gets reality right anymore than any other", was largely the product of male philosophers. Back in time, the pre-Western influenced societies around the world were overwhelmingly patriarchal as well, with plenty of unabated brutality and horrors in their own right.

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the man says to the women, "why do you want financial freedom?"
i am happy! i have everything i want and i do not have finacial freedom because i have to pay for you all the time"

may we name it "lament of the caveman" ?

(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

like the death penalty ?
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Syne Offline
(Nov 3, 2017 07:18 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

like the death penalty ?

There's a difference between being a victim and claiming victimhood to justify your actions.
The state does not claim victimhood to justify the death penalty...nor is it retaliatory.
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#23
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 2, 2017 12:30 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Can we elect blonde runway model female leaders? Maybe we can either dispel or perpetuate a myth or two by doing so.  Rolleyes

Here in Ontario we voted in an openly gay female Premier in the last provincial election. Does it seem any different from a male leader, gay or otherwise? NO, and I think I echo the sentiment of many Ontarians. I will vote for her again if she chooses to run because Ms. Wynne has got the stones to take on the establishment and break stereotypes. I admire that more than billions of dollars of personal wealth.

metaphors of patriarchal games of cowardice aside(calling people strong like a man weak like a women etc et-all and infering people to lack machismo when they refuse to abide the wishes of others as a form of manipulation)

yes... the ability to comprehend concept that come only with well defined personal growth.... i agree completely.
what special skills does some spoilt rich brat display as personal qualities beside someoen who has struggled against norms and bigotry of society to create and maintain a healthy self image.

unfortunately the USA admires money, so all you need to do is pretend you are rich in the usa and people will look up to you like a god..

(Nov 3, 2017 07:24 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 3, 2017 07:18 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

like the death penalty ?

There's a difference between being a victim and claiming victimhood to justify your actions.
The state does not claim victimhood to justify the death penalty...nor is it retaliatory.

keeping in mind im well aware your circling your wagons as you type.
though i shall pay my penny and spin the wheel...
tell me do, what nature of action defines the state killing another person ?
 ... side bar[question], do you think the majority of USA women(non christian non muslim) support the death penalty.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 2, 2017 09:20 PM)confused2 Wrote: When I was a lad...

If you had a problem at work the last person you would tell would be any sort of manager.

If a female had a baby she would 'leave to have a baby'  and might or might not later apply for a job at the same company and would be employed (or not) depending on her value to the company. The job she left 'to have a baby' would normally have been taken and she might (or might not) be offered a job often with less status and at a lower salary than before. How unfair was that? People who left their jobs to sail round the world encountered similar discrimination in the workplace.

We never suffered from 'low morale' we just quietly looked for another job.

problem is the concept of fair compeition.
THAT is the lie which is used to sell the communist principals these capitalist managers use to under fund employees.
IF there was no unemployment the employees would have vastly more power to force up wages.
however, the communist leveraging capitalist industrialists know this so they force the economy to maintain a 7.5% unemployment rate to directly undermine the working class.
the war on unions is fairly obvious to see the last ditch effort to undermine workers rights and conditions.
then you have the Globalisation where labour has been outsourced to non human right countrys and company domiciles have been moved to tax havens and low tax countrys.

all of which are(expressly inequitable) directly-ideologically-opposed to a fair capitalist market policy.
thus you have indistrialist capitalists using facist power systems to dictate communist economic systems on to the working class.. whom mostly are too stupid & too selfish to comprehend any great construct(those whom are not stuck working hand to mouth or in the usa hand to health insurance company).

soo thus.... when talking of fairness and social culture and the whining of companys trying to remove social accountability from their mandate...
where were the people (& the political leaders & captains of indutsry)when those big companys moved all their jobs off shore ?
where were the people (& the political leaders & captains of indutsry)when those companys moved their head-offices off shore and stopped paying tax ?

they stopped the jobs
they stopped the tax
now they claim the countrys people should be greatful and bow down to them just for them selling their product in their country.. as if that is some type of free lunch.
it soo messed up it beguiles me how any can keep a straight face and discuss the economic trade deals with any moral or ethical ligitimacy.
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Syne Offline
(Nov 3, 2017 07:24 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 3, 2017 07:24 AM)Syne Wrote: There's a difference between being a victim and claiming victimhood to justify your actions.
The state does not claim victimhood to justify the death penalty...nor is it retaliatory.

keeping in mind im well aware your circling your wagons as you type.
though i shall pay my penny and spin the wheel...
tell me do, what nature of action defines the state killing another person ?
 ... side bar[question], do you think the majority of USA women(non christian non muslim) support the death penalty.

Apparently baby bird needs spoon feeding. Look up "capital crime".

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll...th-penalty

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And if you check that link, church attendance correlates with lower support for the death penalty.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 3, 2017 04:48 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 3, 2017 07:24 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 3, 2017 07:24 AM)Syne Wrote: There's a difference between being a victim and claiming victimhood to justify your actions.
The state does not claim victimhood to justify the death penalty...nor is it retaliatory.

keeping in mind im well aware your circling your wagons as you type.
though i shall pay my penny and spin the wheel...
tell me do, what nature of action defines the state killing another person ?
 ... side bar[question], do you think the majority of USA women(non christian non muslim) support the death penalty.

Apparently baby bird needs spoon feeding. Look up "capital crime".

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/gallup-poll...th-penalty

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And if you check that link, church attendance correlates with lower support for the death penalty.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-mcs...86016.html
Quote:According to the Hartford Institute of Religion Research, more than 40 percent of Americans “say” they go to church weekly.Oct 14, 2013

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...ey/496940/
Quote:Finally, and perhaps most interestingly, the country seems to be split in half in terms of how often people get to services. Roughly 51 percent of Americans say they go to church or another worship service somewhere between once a month and multiple times per week, while 49 percent said they go rarely or never. But within that 51 percent, more than half of people said they go more often than they used to—in other words, about quarter of Americans  have gotten more active in their religious communities in recent years, not less.


http://news.gallup.com/poll/159770/death...table.aspx
Conservative whom are church goers... = 75%

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/church...le/2569673

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http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landsc...servative/
Quote:Attendance at religious services among conservatives
% of conservatives who attend religious services…
= 50% every week
= 30% every month
=19% seldom never

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...-leanings/
Quote:White evangelical Protestants also voted heavily Republican in 2012 (79% for Romney), which mirrors the leanings of many of the largest evangelical denominations. Members of the Church of the Nazarene are overwhelmingly likely to favor the GOP (63% Republican vs. 24% Democrat), as are the Southern Baptist Convention (64% vs. 26%) and the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (59% vs. 27%), among other evangelical churches. (In our survey, members of these groups can be of any race or ethnicity, while exit polls report totals for white evangelicals in particular.)

http://news.gallup.com/poll/1606/death-penalty.aspx


Quote:Do you feel that the death penalty acts as a deterrent to the commitment of murder, that it lowers the murder rate, or not?
64% of those who support the death penalty say no

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-cr...-deterrent


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Quote:WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' support for the death penalty has dipped to a level not seen in 45 years. Currently, 55% of U.S. adults say they favor the death penalty for convicted murderers.
4.0 % +/- margin of error
http://news.gallup.com/poll/221030/death...-1972.aspx

i notice they do not poll anyone who never goes to church.
yet... the suggestion is that there is a difference.


right, now the resident Gynophobist has had his tantrum...

back to the topic...

Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?
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Syne Offline
(Nov 6, 2017 05:31 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: right, now the resident Gynophobist has had his tantrum...

back to the topic...

Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?

Hey moron, you're the one who brought up the topic of the death penalty in this thread (instead of the one that already existed). Remember?

(Nov 3, 2017 07:18 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: Why does it invariably need to become a matriarchy...or black power...or eat the rich...? Invariably, whatever group claims victimhood is eager to victimize in return. You know, instead of just accepting some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

like the death penalty ?

That was you, bringing it up as a complete nonsequitur.


And funny how all that was supposedly a response to women supporting the death penalty, but it said nothing specifically about women at all. Why did you fail to show this from your own source?
http://news.gallup.com/poll/159770/death...table.aspx

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A majority of even women support the death penalty...and that's from the same source you cited.
What, couldn't see it due to your overwhelming confirmation bias?
Quote:Conservative whom are church goers... = 75%
No, conservative is not synonymous with churchgoer. Apparently you can't even read a simple chart.

Quote:Do you feel that the death penalty acts as a deterrent to the commitment of murder, that it lowers the murder rate, or not?

64% of those who support the death penalty say no

Yet you only show data for criminologists...not those who support the death penalty.


Jeez, learn how to read data already.  Rolleyes
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Nov 6, 2017 06:40 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 6, 2017 05:31 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: right, now the resident Gynophobist has had his tantrum...

back to the topic...

Would the world be more peaceful if there were more women leaders?

Hey moron, you're the one who brought up the topic of the death penalty in this thread (instead of the one that already existed). Remember?

(Nov 3, 2017 07:18 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote:
(Nov 2, 2017 06:37 AM)Syne Wrote: some things as healthy consequences of natural order.

soo you think i am not aware of your sadistic feelings for LGBTQ and other people to suffer for whom they are ?
You think i missed that during your many posts ?
Your whimsical inferance to personal choices and the consequences that you elude to almost in code ?
quite sadistic really... it gives you some type of solice for your position i guess.
as in kind it was YOU who brought up the death penalty in your sentence

"some things as healthy consequences of natural order."

your semi self coded literal gesticulation typed with almost a smirk i would guess.

you think i missed that ?
nope.
you think you baited me ?
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Syne Offline
(Nov 6, 2017 07:45 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: soo you think i am not aware of your sadistic feelings for LGBTQ and other people to suffer for whom they are ?
You think i missed that during your many posts ?
Your whimsical inferance to personal choices and the consequences that you elude to almost in code ?
quite sadistic really... it gives you some type of solice for your position i guess.
as in kind it was YOU who brought up the death penalty in your sentence

"some things as healthy consequences of natural order."

your semi self coded literal gesticulation typed with almost a smirk i would guess.

you think i missed that ?
nope.
you think you baited me ?

What does any of your persecution complex have to do with the death penalty...or even women as leaders?

You're obviously delusional and inferring things never written nor implied. But that's what extremists have to do to maintain their overwhelmingly biased views.

But since you bring it up...

Why would "some things as healthy consequences of natural order" offend an LGBT person so much? Is it the word "healthy" that triggered you? How on earth does "healthy" imply the death penalty? O_o

The only way I can fathom has to do with disease, but certainly you wouldn't be claiming that association, as if the shoe fits, completely unprompted....would you?

You're baseless assumptions are FAR more tell of you than me.
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#30
Zinjanthropos Offline
If I were to invite two people to debate the thread title with either one or both female, and during the discussion personal barbs and attacks on each other's character were prominent throughout, would that answer the question posed?
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