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Syne Offline Oct 8, 2026 12:59 AM (This post was last modified: Oct 8, 2026 12:59 AM by Syne.)
They wonder why we question their value as allies, and then the invert the fact that Europe has been riding on American shoulders for decades.

TDS hypocrisy. 9_9
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Magical Realist Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:02 AM (This post was last modified: Oct 8, 2026 01:04 AM by Magical Realist.)
Quote:They wonder why we question their value as allies

We do? Where would we be without the French allies in the Revolutionary War?

"France’s help was a major and decisive factor in the American victory. Without French military, financial, and naval support, the American colonies likely would not have won independence."
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Syne Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:03 AM
LOL! If you have to go all the way back to the Revolutionary War. 9_9
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Magical Realist Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:08 AM
(Oct 8, 2026 01:03 AM)Syne Wrote: LOL! If you have to go all the way back to the Revolutionary War. 9_9

Is there a statute of limitations on Allied loyalty now? lol
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Syne Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:14 AM
Yes, one-time allies can turn on you. It would be foolish and naive to always trust everyone based on the first good thing they did for you. Some of the best con men do exactly that, to earn your trust first.
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Syne Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:24 AM
Do you think someone has to outright betray you to no longer be a reliable ally? @_@
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Magical Realist Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:27 AM
(Oct 8, 2026 01:24 AM)Syne Wrote: Do you think someone has to outright betray you to no longer be a reliable ally? @_@

That's what you just claimed:

"Yes, one-time allies can turn on you."
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Syne Offline Oct 8, 2026 01:41 AM
Sure, if you think "turn on you" means outright betrayal... which is why I asked. 9_9
I think "turn on you" includes a spectrum of behavior:

The phrase "turn on you" means to suddenly attack, criticize, or become hostile toward someone who was previously a friend or ally.

And:

France and the United States have been locked in a multi-layered diplomatic dispute that peaked after France publicly criticized the U.S. human rights record.

The UN Human Rights Dispute: In late July 2026, the French mission to the United Nations in Geneva published a post on X (formerly Twitter) under the hashtag "#AmericaAlone". The post criticized the United States for joining countries like Russia and North Korea in voting against extending the term of U.N. human rights chief Volker Türk.


Yeah, #AmericaAlone does not come from good allies.
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