Scivillage.com Casual Discussion Science Forum
"The Orange Plague" - Printable Version

+- Scivillage.com Casual Discussion Science Forum (https://www.scivillage.com)
+-- Forum: Culture (https://www.scivillage.com/forum-49.html)
+--- Forum: Law & Ethics (https://www.scivillage.com/forum-105.html)
+--- Thread: "The Orange Plague" (/thread-21522.html)

Pages: 1 2


"The Orange Plague" - Magical Realist - Oct 8, 2026

Perfect!

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1096547249685852


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Syne - Oct 8, 2026

They wonder why we question their value as allies, and then the invert the fact that Europe has been riding on American shoulders for decades.

TDS hypocrisy. 9_9


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Magical Realist - Oct 8, 2026

Quote:They wonder why we question their value as allies

We do? Where would we be without the French allies in the Revolutionary War?

"France’s help was a major and decisive factor in the American victory. Without French military, financial, and naval support, the American colonies likely would not have won independence."


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Syne - Oct 8, 2026

LOL! If you have to go all the way back to the Revolutionary War. 9_9


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Magical Realist - Oct 8, 2026

(Oct 8, 2026 01:03 AM)Syne Wrote: LOL! If you have to go all the way back to the Revolutionary War. 9_9

Is there a statute of limitations on Allied loyalty now? lol


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Syne - Oct 8, 2026

Yes, one-time allies can turn on you. It would be foolish and naive to always trust everyone based on the first good thing they did for you. Some of the best con men do exactly that, to earn your trust first.


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Magical Realist - Oct 8, 2026

Quote:Yes, one-time allies can turn on you.

No they didn't. France has never turned on us.

America otoh?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1648662146885487


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Syne - Oct 8, 2026

Do you think someone has to outright betray you to no longer be a reliable ally? @_@


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Magical Realist - Oct 8, 2026

(Oct 8, 2026 01:24 AM)Syne Wrote: Do you think someone has to outright betray you to no longer be a reliable ally? @_@

That's what you just claimed:

"Yes, one-time allies can turn on you."


RE: "The Orange Plague" - Syne - Oct 8, 2026

Sure, if you think "turn on you" means outright betrayal... which is why I asked. 9_9
I think "turn on you" includes a spectrum of behavior:

The phrase "turn on you" means to suddenly attack, criticize, or become hostile toward someone who was previously a friend or ally.

And:

France and the United States have been locked in a multi-layered diplomatic dispute that peaked after France publicly criticized the U.S. human rights record.

The UN Human Rights Dispute: In late July 2026, the French mission to the United Nations in Geneva published a post on X (formerly Twitter) under the hashtag "#AmericaAlone". The post criticized the United States for joining countries like Russia and North Korea in voting against extending the term of U.N. human rights chief Volker Türk.


Yeah, #AmericaAlone does not come from good allies.