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Magical Realist
Aug 26, 2026 08:20 PM
All of this is not inevitable. With countries taking swift and unified action we can stop many of these from happening..
https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/st...-look-2050
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Sep 3, 2026 05:36 PM
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Syne
Sep 3, 2026 07:29 PM
Oh no, we've completely tanked the global economy, even Western countries are slipping into widespread poverty and poorer countries that once relied on selling to the West are starving.
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Magical Realist
Sep 4, 2026 12:34 AM
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Who is "slipping into widespread poverty"? I hardly think the shift from oil dependency to energy independence is a cause of that, unless you're talking the oil-rich execs, the Arab sheiks, and Russian oligarchs.
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Syne
Sep 4, 2026 01:57 AM
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If you don't understand what forcing all global economies off fossil fuels would do, that's on you. Renewables cannot immediately make up for that loss, and most people cannot afford to buy electric vehicles at the drop of a hat. 80% of the world's shipping and agriculture relies on fossil fuels. That literally means almost immediate famines in less developed countries.
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Magical Realist
Sep 4, 2026 02:16 AM
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LOL at Syne worrying suddenly about the future of third-world countries just so his billion dollar oil companies can stay in power. Can you say "useful idiot"?
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Syne
Sep 4, 2026 02:29 AM
Classic deflection of your callousness about average people, in the West and in less developed countries. Remember, I'm the one who says we should stop taking advantage of cheaper labor (and poorer work conditions) abroad and exploiting illegals as a second-class. You have no problem with either. @_@
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Magical Realist
Sep 4, 2026 03:16 AM
And yet you have no problem cheer-leading Trump's tariffs which will only have the effect of increasing the poverty and unemployment rate in countries we trade with. You are no more concerned about them than you are about illegal immigrants. Talk about virtue signaling.
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Syne
Sep 4, 2026 03:23 AM
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No, fair trade means we don't exploit poorer countries. If those countries allow fair competition, their own citizens pay less for products. If other countries do better, either by lower costs, raising pay, or both, they have less incentive to come here illegally. It's a win-win, both for our own manufacturing and their standard of living.
Was there supposed to be ANY defense of tanking the global economy for a climate agenda incoming? @_@
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Sep 4, 2026 04:39 AM
"Renewable energy is good for nations because it cuts harmful carbon emissions, creates millions of local jobs, and strengthens national energy security.
Economic Benefits
Job creation: Clean energy projects create three times as many jobs per dollar invested compared to fossil fuels.
Lower costs: Using free natural resources like wind and sun reduces long-term electricity bills for homes and businesses.
Price stability: Clean power protects local economies from volatile oil and gas market price swings.
Energy Security
Independence: Generating power within a country's own borders reduces reliance on foreign fuel imports.
Resilience: Distributed power grids—such as local solar and wind networks—are harder to knock out during a major crisis."---Google AI
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