Article  Why are you gay?

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Syne Offline

Like most gay men, I wasn't 'born this way' — and I refuse to lie about it

Embracing my dysfunction as an 'identity' nearly killed me through alcoholism and self-destructive promiscuity.

“Why are you gay?”... Then the internet exploded. The voices of countless homosexuals and their supportive family members rose in unison to a pitch so shrill it could crack silicon data chips.

They trotted out all the predictable labels. Homophobe. Bigot. Christian nationalist. ... — simply for asking the question we are not allowed to ask.
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Trauma response
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So what did he say?

"In almost every case, and certainly in every male case, [homosexuality] is a trauma response. It is not a sexuality."

Milo Yiannopolous speaks for me. I endorse what he said and believe it to be true. I believe I became a homosexual because I grew up under a mother with narcissistic personality disorder, a father who left before I could ever meet him, and an attempted murderer and pedophile for a stepfather.
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1. Yes, I believe the large majority of male homosexuals are homosexuals because of childhood circumstances and trauma.

2. Yes, I believe that most of those who claim that they had no childhood trauma are not being candid — including, in some cases, not being candid with themselves. Personal and professional experience leads me to this conclusion.

3. No, I’m not claiming that every single male homosexual had abusive parents. Yes, I recognize that some male homosexuals come from stable, loving families. I have male homosexual friends who fit this description.

What we used to know

We have lived for so long with the culturally enforced mandate to believe in “born this way” that we have to remind society of what it used to know just yesterday. Those of you in middle age will remember that until the past 25 years or so, homosexuality was understood to be the outcome of an abusive or neglectful childhood.

Not only psychiatric researchers, but everyday Americans noticed that most male homosexuals had troubled or nonexistent relationships with their fathers. They noticed that male homosexuals were unusually close to and emotionally enmeshed with their mothers. They noticed that those mothers often had overbearing, domineering, or melodramatic personalities.

If you’re younger than 40 and reading this with shock, I’m telling you the truth. This view was normal, but it was deliberately re-cast as “homophobia” and “ abuse against gays” in the past 25 years by the same activists who brought you “trans kids,” breast removal of healthy teen girls, and cross-sex hormones for teen boys who “are actually girls.”

That’s the set that brought you “born this way.”
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When the topic is this emotional, people stop thinking and start emoting. They start pretending that humans can’t know anything about the world, can’t recognize any patterns, and can’t come to any conclusions unless a Scientist published a Paper in a a Peer-Reviewed Journal.

Nevertheless, I’ll try. Surprising though it may be, the psychiatric and psychological literature, starting with Freud in the early 20th century, has long noted the pattern I described above. And most, though not all, male homosexuals were sexually abused as children or as minors. (I am a homosexual, but I was not molested as a child.)

Commentator and “ex-gay” Joseph Sciambra has published several bibliographies that round up much of this literature.

Normally, people don’t demand “the Science” on other subjects. No one demands “the Science” before noticing that most teenage drivers are more erratic and dangerous and therefore it pays to drive defensively around them. Everyone knows this, not because they read “the Science.” They know it because they have eyes, ears, and a brain that detects patterns.

... Those conservatives who find the position taken in this piece hard to bear have been manipulated emotionally by gay activists.

If you’re a conservative who finds this uncomfortable or “mean,” I think I know another reason why. You have homosexuals in your family whom you love (so do I, friends). Some of them are your children. And if they’re your children, you’re hearing an implicit accusation: “He’s saying I’m a terrible mother who made my son gay.”
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Even the most loving parents will make mistakes, and the culture outside the parental home is ravening at your children and pushing them to adopt deviant and hedonistic lifestyles. Even the best parents can’t keep all of that out.

'Coming out' to my mother

Let me tell you the story of a night in 1986 when I “came out” to my mother at age 12. Align readers know from my past columns that my mother was an abusive, deranged woman who veered into psychopathy at times. But there were moments when a real woman with real feelings came through.
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I told my mother that I was gay and that I felt duty-bound to tell her the truth about it. Looking back at myself at 12, I shudder that I was already forming myself into a “gay identity” that would trap me in promiscuity, addiction, and emotional disturbance for decades to come. But I didn’t know any better then.

My mother started crying. It wasn’t her usual self-pitying kind of crying, and it wasn’t her angry crying that would escalate to slaps across the face and screamed insults.

“I worried for so long that I would do this to you, that I would make you gay,” she said while she looked down at her hands. “I never gave you a father, and the father figure I brought into your life turned out to be a monster.”

This was one of the few times in our life together that I can remember when my mother seemed genuine and honest and seemed to care about my well-being. I think her sense of responsibility and guilt was real (my mother wasn’t much for feeling normal parental responsibility).

“I’m not crying because you’re gay,” she said. “I’m crying because I know that life is going to be harder for you. I’m terrified that you’ll get a disease and die early. Please be careful.”
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“You didn’t do anything to me, Mom. I was born this way,” I said.

And I believed it.

The limits of tolerance

It is true that my mother never sat down one day and said, “How can I derange my son and turn him into a homosexual?”

But what my mother feared did happen. The abuse, the depravation, the disordered emotions in my childhood home did make me a homosexual. How I choose to behave is my responsibility, but I did not “choose” to be sexually disordered this way. I was just a child.

If you’re reading this and you’re a homosexual or the parent of one or a loved one, and you don’t believe this applies to you, then go in peace. But please let those of us for whom this is important — let us have this conversation. Too many emotionally triggered people do everything they can to shut it down.

They accuse homosexuals like me of being “abusive” and of “hurting” them. No such thing is occurring. All the sympathy "allies" claim to have for homosexuals when we are “born this way gays” evaporates the moment we change our minds. They insult us and call us insane, with more vitriol than actual anti-gay bullies who beat us up in high school.

Silence equals death

We are going to have this conversation. We’re not going to be silenced or manipulated into being good, quiet little gay boys to fit someone else’s fantasy of having a “fabulous” best friend or son.

I lived the “fabulous” life, and it nearly killed me through alcoholism and self-destructive promiscuity. The way I lived brought despair. And I am typical. I am not “just an unusual gay.” My life story looks like the life stories of the majority of gay men. Yeah, I know. They tell you that isn’t true.

They’re lying because they’re terrified that something they’ve relied on too heavily to define themselves as human men may have been a lie all along. I know, because I lied this way too.

Yes, I’m still attracted to men and not attracted to women. I don’t believe I have the ability to change those subjective feelings, but I may find otherwise in time. For seven years I’ve been single and celibate, and I plan to remain so.

Others must choose their own path in their own time. Nothing I’ve written here can honestly be construed as an attack, or an assault, on other homosexuals or those who love them. The truth is not an act of hate or abuse.

What’s real and true matters, and it’s well past time to tell the truth about the lie we call “born this way.”

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Magical Realist Offline
It's sad to see gay men who have so internalized homophobia and self-hate that they can't accept their own sexuality as part of who they are. Such are the lasting affects of the legacy of the conservative/Christian right in pathologizing it and attacking it as some form of perversion and mental illness. Fortunately such deluded malcontents are few and far between.

The problem with attributing being gay with trauma is that trauma these days is so overused as an excuse for how one turned out that practically everything counts for it . A father who left. A mentally ill mother. An alcoholic step father. Being bullied in school. You name it. It's trauma. And so nowadays it is used to make sense of some way you are that you don't want to be. As if you are trapped somehow by your past. I don't agree with that. As an existentialist I believe we create the reality we want to live in. Part of maturing and becoming a happy human being is learning to accept the things in yourself that you cannot change. And as we know, sexuality is one of those. Self-acceptance is the key to wholeness--to the point of even loving the dark parts of yourself you have been saddled with. If being gay is something you dislike about yourself, you should explore why you feel that way and how you can come to terms with it. It's just part of remaining sane in an all too insane world that is trying every day to turn you into something you're not.
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confused2 Offline
I read the OP and didn't think it related to any homosexuals I've known. One committed suicide at the age of 20 (in 1974) .. I have my suspicions about Mensa not being quite what it pretends to be. Of two that I knew for years .. one celibate (a priest) but out and apparently 'normal' and well-adjusted. Another in a long-term relationship.. also out and well-adjusted .. 'married' but before that had and any legal meaning. Of other odds and sods .. all pretty 'normal' and apparently well adjusted. We all choose who we share a bed with .. mostly it's fun .. yaay Whatsit's got a new gf/bf. MR's 'gayness' .. choosing words carefully .. I can't see any reason to like or dislike him either because of or in spite of it - it's just one feature among ..er.. other features.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:MR's 'gayness' .. choosing words carefully

It's a tell tale sign when someone refers to gays and lesbians as "homosexuals" that they are a homophobe. It's an ugly sounding label dating back to the old days when it was used to strike hysteria in the minds of the public about us as sexual predators and mentally-ill perverts. I really don't like "gay" much better though, which sounds like the stereotype of the flamboyant and nelly queen. And I'm certainly not going to settle for "queer" either. Such are the hazards of identifying oneself as belonging in a social category or group. It's essentially depersonalizing and even rigidly taxonomic, like some animal or insect species. If they were really serious about classifying all human beings based solely on their sexual proclivities, they'd quickly exhaust the list of available descriptors!

“No, I am not a homosexual. But I’m also not going to go through my life with one hand tied behind my back.” ---James Dean
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C C Offline
Meh. He said, he said.

"He declares it's biological for socio-political reasons."

"He declares it's acquired because he's a self-hater wanting to fit in." 

And both of these general, rival views apparently regarding their stances as absolute or universal (which is actually the thing that is most highly unlikely).

When it is strictly biological, it may often be due to hormonal imbalances during womb development (contingent instabilities of the supporting maternal body), since one identical twin being heterosexual and another being homosexual seems to derail somewhat a strict genetic origin.

If an all-knowing supernatural entity held a gun to my head and forced me to predict who was gay solely due to biological reasons rather than a complex of different factors, my method of choice (for garnering more points than misses) would have to be those with distinctive gay speech from age two or three. When in the context of being raised in a straight family with little or no exposure to living gay stereotypes and gay community members. 

"Scientific research has uncovered phonetically significant features produced by many gay men and demonstrated that listeners accurately guess speakers' sexual orientation at rates greater than chance. [...] Research does not support the notion that gay speech entirely adopts mainstream feminine speech characteristics — rather, that it selectively adopts some of those features."

Obviously, I'd be counting on or clinging to the rope of there existing those who had never needed to selectively adopt such (again, were doing it as soon as they could actually speak or had departed crib babbling).
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:"Scientific research has uncovered phonetically significant features produced by many gay men and demonstrated that listeners accurately guess speakers' sexual orientation at rates greater than chance. [...] Research does not support the notion that gay speech entirely adopts mainstream feminine speech characteristics — rather, that it selectively adopts some of those features."

It seems more scientific to me to accept the ability to clearly enunciate words as normal and predominant among girls and gay boys (and British children in general?) and define the slurring speech patterns of straight boys as the true abnormality. Maybe they all need some speech remedial training. "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain." But then, who would fund THOSE studies?
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(4 hours ago)Magical Realist Wrote: It seems more scientific to me to accept the ability to clearly enunciate words as normal and predominant among girls and gay boys and define the slurring speech patterns of straight boys as the true abnormality. Maybe they all need some speech remedial training. But then, who would fund THOSE studies?

While granting that Marlon Brando was an omnifetishist who would even have sex with soft drink dispenser machines... Still, by and large he indeed did the mumbling (and Stanley Kowalski behavior) to make himself different enough from women that groupies and other celebrities (like Rita Moreno) would be attracted to him. Gung-ho for any object, any animal, and any person -- yes, but still tilting heavily on the male heterosexual side and exemplifying its stereotypicality and objectives. Wink When making the movie The Night of the Following Day, he reportedly disliked the way the director and script were portraying his character "Bud" that he got him kicked off later, and the film's production was handed over to someone who made Bud more macho (Brando even getting to use a machine gun toward the end).
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Magical Realist Offline
I think we just needed more masculine British-speaking actors like Richard Burton or Peter O'Toole who could properly enunciate and lacked the typical American male slur (they were both great in "Becket"). It's a shame the Hollywood ideal of the macho male had to incorporate a speech impediment into itself just to make it more publically "distinguishable". Even more shameful was how they used the comedic "lisp" to distinguish gay male characters (though not a real lisp just an overpronunciation of "s's").
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