Will Iran regime fall, or just another umpteenth fail of protesters? (rerun hobbies)

Syne Offline
(Mar 20, 2026 01:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Evidently it takes a lot of taxpayer money to blow up shit for no reason.

No reason?
You don't want to stop nuclear proliferation?
You don't care about Iranians being murdered for protesting?
You don't care about our military bases and allies in the region being attacked with conventional weapons from several terrorist proxies of Iran?
You don't care if leaving Iran standing emboldens China to take Taiwan?

Are you that heartless or that stupid?
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:You don't want to stop nuclear proliferation?

How do you do that without a nuclear facility?

Quote:You don't care about Iranians being murdered for protesting?

There are murders going on all over the world every day. We can't stop them from happening. It's not America's job to play global crimefighter.

Quote:You don't care about our military bases and allies in the region being attacked with conventional weapons from several terrorist proxies of Iran?

You mean by non-Iranians? Sure. Track them down and capture them. That's how it usually works.

Quote:You don't care if leaving Iran standing emboldens China to take Taiwan?

LOL Iran is not responsible for what China does. China is.
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Syne Offline
(Mar 20, 2026 03:34 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:You don't want to stop nuclear proliferation?

How do you do that without a nuclear facility?
You know they had more than one, right?

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Quote:You don't care about Iranians being murdered for protesting?

There are murders going on all over the world every day. We can't stop them from happening. It's not America's job to play global crimefighter.
When the people are rising up and there's a window of opportunity when the oppressor has been weakened and before they become a new nuclear power, there's a moral and tactical obligation to protect our military, allies in the region, and a decades long threat on the homeland.

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Quote:You don't care about our military bases and allies in the region being attacked with conventional weapons from several terrorist proxies of Iran?

You mean by non-Iranians? Sure. Track them down and capture them. That's how it usually works.
You do know Iran has been the single largest state sponsor of terrorism, right?

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Quote:You don't care if leaving Iran standing emboldens China to take Taiwan?

LOL Iran is not responsible for what China does. China is.
It's cute how you don't understand how geopolitics is interconnected. It's not about Iran being responsible. It's about the US telegraphing its weakness or unwillingness to take decisive action and finish the job. Just like how Biden telegraphing US weakness led to the disastrous Afghanistan pullout, Russia invading Ukraine, Hamas attacking Israel, unfreezing $16 billion to Iran, etc..
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:When the people are rising up and there's a window of opportunity when the oppressor has been weakened and before they become a new nuclear power, there's a moral and tactical obligation to protect our military, allies in the region, and a decades long threat on the homeland.

You said their killing of the protesters was the reason to bomb them. It was not and is not. We don't bomb dictators for committing crimes against their own citizens. It's tragic yes but it's simply not our job.

Quote:You do know Iran has been the single largest state sponsor of terrorism, right?

But not actually committing terrorism itself. Seems a very weak excuse to blow up their city. And if they ever had a reason to commit terrorism against the US they certainly do now.

Quote:It's cute how you don't understand how geopolitics is interconnected. It's not about Iran being responsible.

You gave the fact that Iran is still standing causing China to invade Taiwan as a reason to bomb them. Total bullshit. No nation is responsible for what other nations choose to do. Or actually MIGHT do since China is NOT invading Taiwan.
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Syne Offline
(Mar 20, 2026 04:34 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:When the people are rising up and there's a window of opportunity when the oppressor has been weakened and before they become a new nuclear power, there's a moral and tactical obligation to protect our military, allies in the region, and a decades long threat on the homeland.

You said their killing of the protesters was the reason to bomb them. It was not and is not. We don't bomb dictators for committing crimes against their own citizens. It's tragic yes but it's simply not our job.
You think there's only one reason? @_@

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Quote:You do know Iran has been the single largest state sponsor of terrorism, right?

But not actually committing terrorism itself. Seems a very weak excuse to blow up their city. And if they ever had a reason to commit terrorism against the US they certainly do now.

Iran has a long history of conducting or sponsoring terrorist attacks and violent operations, frequently targeting U.S. forces, Israel, and dissidents, with a significant surge in activity occurring between 2020 and early 2026. These actions are often executed through the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and proxy groups like Hezbollah, Kataib Hezbollah, and Hamas.
Major Attacks and Operations (2020–2026)

2023–2025: Regional Escalation: Iran and its proxies conducted over 180 attacks against U.S. forces in Iraq, Syria, and Jordan between October 2023 and November 2024, including a January 2024 drone strike on the Tower 22 base in Jordan that killed three U.S. service members.
2020–2023: In 2020, Iran launched ballistic missiles at Iraq's Ain al-Asad Air Base, injuring over 100 U.S. personnel, followed by further attacks on U.S. forces in Syria and Iraq in 2022 and 2023, causing fatalities.
Assassination Attempts: Throughout this period, Iran was linked to plots targeting former U.S. officials and Iranian dissidents in the U.S..

Historical Context (Pre-2020)

Regional & International Attacks: Historically, Iran-backed groups were responsible for major bombings, including the 1983 Beirut embassy, 1996 Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia, and the 1992 and 1994 attacks in Buenos Aires.
Iraq Conflict: Iran was implicated in the deaths of over 600 U.S. service members in Iraq between 2003 and 2011.
- Google AI

And no one is blowing up cities. All the strikes are targeted to regime sites.

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Quote:It's cute how you don't understand how geopolitics is interconnected. It's not about Iran being responsible. It's about the US telegraphing its weakness or unwillingness to take decisive action and finish the job. Just like how Biden telegraphing US weakness led to the disastrous Afghanistan pullout, Russia invading Ukraine, Hamas attacking Israel, unfreezing $16 billion to Iran, etc..

You gave the fact that Iran is still standing causing China to invade Taiwan as a reason to bomb them. Total bullshit. No nation is responsible for what other nations choose to do. Or actually MIGHT do since China is NOT invading Taiwan.

Here, I added the part you left out... because you obviously don't understand simple geopolitics.
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Yazata Offline
The USS Boxer Amphibious Ready Group, currently on the US west coast (San Diego I believe) has received orders to proceed through the Indo-Pacific to the Middle East. The Boxer will be accompanied by two landing ships, the USS Comstock and the USS Portland (yikes! Better keep a close eye on that one!) Together they carry another 2,000 Marines in the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit. Indications are that they left port today.


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And Israeli aircraft are active once again over Tehran. They appear to have conducted more of their highly targeted air strikes. Iranian air defenses are active, without any visible successes.

The United States has been flying strategic bomber strike packages from RAF Fairford in England. And they had been passing over France to the Mediterranean. But a day or two ago a high ranking French official flew to Fairford and met with high ranking American Air Force officers. Soon after the American bombers started flying down the Atlantic past Portugal, turning left over the Strait of Gibraltar and flying the length of the Mediterranean. Apparently the French didn't want these strike packages flying through French airspace.

But today, a package of several B-1's flew over France just like the good old days. So maybe Trump got on the horn to Macron or something. But the French seem to have relented.

A totally unverified report from Iranian dissidents says that Mojtaba Khamenei was in a coma at Loghman hospital, one of the most prominent hospitals in Iran, and that he has since died. A dissident in contact with the west says he got that news from a worker at the hospital. This needs to be taken skeptically. There are many different stories circulating. But according to Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, the US does believe that Mojtaba Khamenei has been seriously injured.

Mojtaba's father, the late Ali Khamenei, had an account on X. And posts have continued to appear on it since the elder Khamanei was killed. Most recently the account was boasting about the supposed shootdown of the American F-35A. And a prominent citizen of the UAE Hassan Sajwani replied, "Bro is using Starlink from Hell".

We all knew that Starlink was good, but not that good! It works everywhere!
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Syne Offline

The Netherlands, along with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, and Japan, said they are prepared to support “appropriate measures” to safeguard shipping in the Strait of Hormuz. The six nations welcomed the start of “preparatory planning” by involved countries.
- https://nltimes.nl/2026/03/19/netherland...g-tensions

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Yazata Offline
Today a C-17 left somewhere in the Middle East, stopped in Germany for a short while, then flew to Joint Base Andrews outside Washington DC. Then a convoy of large truck-chassis mega-ambulances called 'Patient Evacuation Vehicles' departed with a large police escort and proceeded to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda MD.


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Syne Offline
(Mar 20, 2026 07:28 AM)Yazata Wrote: Today a C-17 left somewhere in the Middle East, stopped in Germany for a short while, then flew to Joint Base Andrews outside Washington DC. Then a convoy of large truck-chassis mega-ambulances called 'Patient Evacuation Vehicles' departed with a large police escort and proceeded to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda MD.


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Captured the new ayatollah? He was presumed to be in pretty rough shape.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Is Mojtaba on one of those ambulances? First thought was if the regime doesn’t have the medical wherewithal to prevent the Ayatollah from dying and now the US has been asked to save his hide? Be a strange twist.
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