Will Iran regime fall, or just another umpteenth fail of protesters? (rerun hobbies)

Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Ultimately this whole thing is just a propaganda exercise. What did or didn't happen to the school has no real military impact on eliminating Iran's nuclear or ballistic missile programs. It's all about protecting those programs by media manipulation of domestic public opinion in the United States, where I don't think that it's having the impact that Iran and the American left hoped it might have. It hasn't gained any political traction and there's no powerful anti-war movement rising because of it.

Yeah..nobody likes their Hollywood B movie of exploding buildings and corny war hero one-liners spoiled by inconvenient little realities like 120 little girls being crushed under concrete rubble and rebar. Can't let that distract us. No siree! The movie must continue, with Old Bonespur Donny strutting around like Gen George fuck'n Patton.

Meanwhile, Trump says he may need to reinstate a national draft to keep his Iran War going. They say he likes to keep all options on the table, which is basically newspeak for not having any plan at all.
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Syne Offline
The alternative is to let Iran continue to oppress their people, including acid in the face or losing an eye for any women who doesn't wear a hijab, until they get a nuclear weapon and the risk of confronting them becomes too great... forging a new nuclear power dictatorship, like North Korea, only with continued aims of spreading terrorism worldwide.

Talk about suicidal empathy.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
When Trump called on Iranians to fight the regime it reminded me of the commanding general of the free French announcing to his compatriots as they approached Normandy that they were about to fire upon their homeland. No one complained despite knowing many French civilians, among them schoolchildren, were about to die as a result of the friendly fire. During WWII my departed in-laws lived in The Hague near the rail yards and were constantly bombed by allied aircraft, again no one complained despite many deaths, including schoolchildren. 8000 schoolchildren killed in the initial attack on Hiroshima, American forces cheered, Americans at home cheered, because it spelled the end of a regime and war. Was the Afghan who stepped onto a school bus just to shoot a kid in the head the US’ fault?

In no way shape or form was there a planned attack on Iranian schools. An unfortunate consequence of war and if you want to blame Trump then you might as well equally blame the Iranian Govt. if I’m at war then I understand children die also, no getting around it and it bloody well sucks. Every leader faces this dilemma and yet, must make the call, knowing full well war doesn’t play favourites.
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Magical Realist Offline
And if you launch a missile at a target guess what? You are responsible for the deaths that occur from it. Doesn't matter if you thought it was someone else. Doesn't matter if you're at war.


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Syne Offline
Again, morally equating the leading sponsor of global terrorism with the people trying to liberate the Iranian civilians and stop terrorism is itself immoral. The difference is that the Iran regime would intentionally target schools where the US and Israel would not.

Under International Humanitarian Law (IHL), schools are classified as civilian objects and are generally protected from attack. Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to education is considered a war crime under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
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If you could read plain English, you'd see that intent is what makes it a violation. Collateral damage is not a war crime, especially when combatants, like Iran or Hamas, intentional place civilians in harms way.

Too bad you lack a moral compass that would make you question equating terrorists autocracies with democratic countries.

Hell, if you even knew your history, you'd know that places like France were happy to have the Allies bombing them.... in order to free them from German occupation... and they expected collateral damage.

French civilians generally accepted Allied bombings during WWII as a necessary, if tragic, evil for liberation from Nazi occupation, viewing them as better than continued German rule. While bombings caused significant casualties and destruction, they were seen as unavoidable for freeing the country.
- Google AI

The vast majority of Iranians, in Iran and elsewhere, have said the same thing. This is why you can hardly find any Iranians in the left's anti-war protests.
You'll be remembered as the Neville Chamberlain of this conflict.
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Yazata Online
After eight B-1's arrived at RAF Fairford in England over the last couple of days (six after flying bombing sorties over Iran), three B-52's arrived today. It looks like Fairford has become the USAF's bomber base in Britain.

RAF Fairford is also seeing lots of transport traffic including eight military-chartered civilian 747's, two military-chartered 777's, five C-17's, two C-5's, and two C-130's.

That's thirty aircraft into one base in just the last few days! Despite President Trump telling the press that the air war might be nearing completion, the buildup continues.


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Zinjanthropos Offline
Not sure if true or not.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_e...s-wounded/

They know where he’s at, can’t hide. Let’s see, going to need a food taster and a remote start car, a double, Kevlar, bomb sniffing dogs, people he can trust in his entourage, metal detectors, disguises, low low profile and stay away from public gatherings. Don’t want the guy to always be looking over his shoulder.
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Syne Offline
(Mar 10, 2026 05:19 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: They know where he’s at, can’t hide. Let’s see, going to need a food taster and a remote start car, a double, Kevlar, bomb sniffing dogs, people he can trust in his entourage, metal detectors, disguises, low low profile and stay away from public gatherings. Don’t want the guy to always be looking over his shoulder.

Probably pretty hard to lead a country in those circumstances.
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C C Offline
Quote:Fact Check: Did Mojtaba Khamenei die from his injuries following US-Israel airstrike?
https://news.meaww.com/fact-check-did-mo...-airstrike

EXCERPT: Speaking to ABC News, Trump said, “He’s going to have to get approval from us…If he doesn’t get approval from us, he’s not going to last long. We want to make sure that we don’t have to go back every 10 years, when you don’t have a president like me that’s not going to do it.”

Sounds like it may be a long, long, war -- due to Islamic suicidal martyrdom even amidst members of a regime? Or will it instead be:

"Iraq fell quickly during the 2003 invasion, with U.S. and coalition forces capturing Baghdad just three weeks after the invasion began on March 20, 2003. By May 1, 2003, President Bush declared the end of major combat operations, although the country faced significant challenges in the years that followed."

Required some ground troops, though.
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Syne Offline
Considering Islamists are only like 37% of Iranians, you would assume there is a critical limit on how long they can maintain their power under a constant eradication operation. Between the US and Israel, I believe we have the intelligence to continue prosecuting this mission from the air.

We only need boots on the ground to secure enriched uranium and destroy enrichment facilities. If we end up with allied forces in the country, that makes that job easier.
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