Right-wing provocateur Charlie Kirk shot

#41
Magical Realist Offline
The photo of the shooter they just released on the news showed him wearing a shirt with what looks like a picture of an American flag and a gun. I'm not exactly thinking leftist anarchist here..

Here's two examples of Charlie's schtick---ask questions without giving time for answers and talk real fast and then dismiss the questioner with a condescending remark. It's the same dog and pony show other conservative provocateurs like Ben Shapiro put on. That doesn't seem to me to be encouraging free speech discourse. It's more about an egotistical scoring of political points for the entertainment of his fans..

https://www.facebook.com/reel/24237159879270842

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1089736956579124
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#42
Yazata Offline
I'm struck by how the left demanding and enforcing cultural changes as aggressively as they can is described as righteous, never divisive - even if the majority of the population don't like and objects to the cultural changes being forced on them.

While any disagreement voiced with the radical social change agendas is supposedly the source of division.

They can hate on President Trump and all of his supporters like myself and Charlie Kirk all they like, and again that's ok because it's supposedly righteous. We are fascists, bigots, liars, racists, misogynists, antiscience, transphobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic and a constantly expanding vocabulary of hatred. But that kind of rhetoric is never hate, because it's righteous.

But anyone who disagrees with any of it is a hater who thereby makes him/herself the target of righteous violence. That's the antifa philosophy and it was repeated again by Matthew Dowd: 

"You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place"

Translation: Unless you stop disagreeing with us, the self-appointed righteous ones, we will kill you. And your death will be your own fault, because you insisted on being so evil.
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#43
C C Offline
(Sep 11, 2025 08:49 PM)Yazata Wrote: I'm struck by how the left demanding and enforcing cultural changes as aggressively as they can is described as righteous, never divisive - even if the majority of the population don't like and objects to the cultural changes being forced on them.

While any disagreement voiced with the radical social change agendas is supposedly the source of division.

They can hate on President Trump and all of his supporters like myself and Charlie Kirk all they like, and again that's ok because it's supposedly righteous. We are fascists, bigots, liars, racists, misogynists, antiscience, transphobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic and a constantly expanding vocabulary of hatred. But that kind of rhetoric is never hate, because it's righteous.

But anyone who disagrees with any of it is a hater who thereby makes him/herself the target of righteous violence. That's the antifa philosophy and it was repeated again by Matthew Dowd: 

"You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place"

Translation: Unless you stop disagreeing with us, the self-appointed righteous ones, we will kill you. And your death will be your own fault, because you insisted on being so evil.

Star Trek actors cheer Charlie Kirk assassination and stir up more hate
https://youtu.be/f8g0YrYLMWg

VIDEO EXCERPTS: I didn't even finish doing my videos yesterday because of this Charlie Kirk situation. He was a friend of the family, and I was talking with my mom about it last night.

I've got my Star Trek actors all on my feed, and what do they do?

Well, William Shatner is correct. He's like the only one out of all these people who has any sort of decency to him. Every other one of these is just disgusting. And I'm going to get into a couple of them.

George Takei and Tim Russ have posted some of the most disgusting, horrible things. I can't even imagine. Why on earth would you act like this on an occasion like this?

I guess they're old enough that they don't care about having to face the public anymore or whatever. They're just so unhinged.

But this is what these people think. They really do want us all dead. And this has been the case in Hollywood. It's been the case in book publishing. It's been the case in comics, video games. It's all across the board.

This disgusting behavior is what the left actually stands for. And they actually do want this. Even most of the people who haven't said anything, those are cheering it on internally.


[...] Like I said, William Shatner seems to be the only guy out there who's a reasonable one out of the out of all these folk...

Jon Del Arroz ... https://youtu.be/f8g0YrYLMWg

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/f8g0YrYLMWg
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#44
Syne Offline
Someone found the design of the shirt, likely to blend in at Kirk event.

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(Sep 11, 2025 08:49 PM)Yazata Wrote: I'm struck by how the left demanding and enforcing cultural changes as aggressively as they can is described as righteous, never divisive - even if the majority of the population don't like and objects to the cultural changes being forced on them.

While any disagreement voiced with the radical social change agendas is supposedly the source of division.

They can hate on President Trump and all of his supporters like myself and Charlie Kirk all they like, and again that's ok because it's supposedly righteous. We are fascists, bigots, liars, racists, misogynists, antiscience, transphobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, xenophobic and a constantly expanding vocabulary of hatred. But that kind of rhetoric is never hate, because it's righteous.

But anyone who disagrees with any of it is a hater who thereby makes him/herself the target of righteous violence. That's the antifa philosophy and it was repeated again by Matthew Dowd: 

"You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place"

Translation: Unless you stop disagreeing with us, the self-appointed righteous ones, we will kill you. And your death will be your own fault, because you insisted on being so evil.

Exactly.
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#45
C C Offline
Transgender DC writer fired after celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk
https://youtu.be/bV5W4IgX2oU

VIDEO EXCERPTS: Somebody who just went out there and talked to people, who spoke to people, who believed in free speech and believed in debate. And he was murdered. But that is not the only evil we witnessed yesterday.

[...] And those are the people that were cheering it on and celebrating across the landscape of the entertainment, the gaming space, the comic book space. So many people out there revealed their true colors. And we've known for a long time that there are people out there on the other side.

That if you don't think like them, they want you dead. We've known that. And never was it more on display than it was yesterday.

[...] Today I want to focus on one specific person. And that is a writer for DC comics. [...] Gretchen Felker Martin...

Police Aren’t People (excerpt): The shocking news that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot at a Utah event has reverberated across the country. One of the more disturbing responses came from inside the entertainment industry.

Gretchen Felker-Martin, a biological male who identifies as female and is currently writing a "Red Hood" comic book for DC Comics, openly mocked Kirk’s death while also posting vile remarks about police officers, claiming they’re not “people.”

The DC Writer openly mocked Charlie Kirk mere hours after he was fatally shot, fueling serious questions about judgment inside DC, Warner Bros. Discovery, and the broader culture surrounding its creative hires.

On social media, the DC writer wrote: “Thoughts and prayers you Nazi bitch.

This was followed by another post that sneered: “Hope the bullet’s okay after touching Charlie Kirk.

Instead of offering sympathy, measured criticism, or just saying nothing at all, Felker-Martin responded to the news of Kirk’s shooting with open ridicule.

On the very same day, Felker-Martin also turned to attacking law enforcement, referencing a sequence in the upcoming "Red Hood" comic.

Kept seeing people trigger warning RED HOOD #1 for suicide, and for the life of me I could not figure out why until I remembered it opens with a bunch of cops shooting themselves. I just don’t really consider them people,” Felker-Martin said...

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DC’s "Red Hood" series cancelled after writer Gretchen Felker-Martin mocked Charlie Kirk shooting, claimed police weren’t people
https://thatparkplace.com/dcs-red-hood-s...nt-people/

EXCERPTS: On the very day "Red Hood" #1 launched, DC informed retailers that the series would be discontinued. Issues #2 and #3, along with all future solicitations, were cancelled. Retailers will also be credited for "Red Hood" #1, including already-sold copies — a virtually unprecedented move in modern comics.

In a statement reported by industry trades, DC explained: “While we respect the creative viewpoints of our talent, posts or public comments that can be viewed as promoting hostility or violence are inconsistent with DC’s standards of conduct.”

The cancellation comes less than 24 hours after fans first noticed Felker-Martin’s remarks about Kirk circulating on social media.

[...] Meanwhile, some defenders argued that cancelling a comic over off-the-clock remarks raises concerns about free speech and artistic independence. DC, however, appears unwilling to let its brand be attached to posts seen as celebrating violence.
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#46
Yazata Offline
CBS news is reporting that according to "federal law enforcement officials", they think that they know the name of the individual in the photographs the FBI released. But no arrest warrants have been issued and nobody is in custody.
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#47
Yazata Offline
Looks like CBS news was wrong (wow, big surprise there). They don't have a name for the shooter and are appealing to the public for help. It does look like the photos that they released earlier are the shooter, though.

There's video of him walking onto campus before the shooting with a visible & pronounced limp. Speculation is that he had the rifle hidden down his pants leg and under his shirt. And there's video of him making his escape. He was pretty athletic then, coming down off a 20 foot roof and then running off with no visible limp. He seemed to know where he was going and was familiar with both the building he was on the roof of and the surrounding neighborhood.

Was he a UVU student? Had he been on campus previously, checking sightlines and access to the roof of the building? The whole assassination certainly seems to have been carefully planned and premeditated.



Without seeking any recognition whatsoever, Elon has very quietly pledged to pay all living and education expenses for Charlie Kirk's two children.
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#48
Syne Offline
(Sep 12, 2025 03:48 AM)Yazata Wrote: Without seeking any recognition whatsoever, Elon has very quietly pledged to pay all living and education expenses for Charlie Kirk's two children.

That looks like a social media rumor. There was a similar one about a Vikings NFL player.
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#50
C C Offline
Groomed by left-wing outlets that often use the f-word ("fascist") and "spreading hate", if going purely by this? But a grown adult, the parents couldn't insulate him from the mainstream environment anymore. Fairy tales were over, a revolutionary born. Maybe "real world" shock rattled his brain too much.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/...arlie-kirk

EXCERPTS: Ahead of Kirk’s appearance at Utah Valley University on Wednesday, [Tyler] Robinson told family members about Kirk coming to the state and said Kirk was “full of hate and spreading hate,” according to Cox, who said casings left with a gun believed to be used in the shooting were inscribed with “Hey fascist! Catch!” and, “If you read this you are gay lmao,” among other messages.

[...] Tyler Robinson previously submitted voter registration in July 2021 and listed his political party as none, NBC News reported. A family member told law enforcement that Robinson had “become more political in recent years” and disclosed Robinson talked about why they “didn’t like [Kirk] and the viewpoints that he had,” Cox said.
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