Yah, magazine and other journalists have always staged photographs, like the Hollister riot ones. The man in the background -- Gus Deserpa -- recounted how he saw them gather-up bottles and place them around the motorcycle, and then select a drunk leaving the bar who wasn't even the owner of the motorcycle, to sit on it. Gus deliberately placed himself in the scene to deter them from taking the fake photograph, but they were oblivious to him.
Staged Photographs: A new investigation by German media outlets Süddeutsche Zeitung and BILD revealed that prominent Gaza-based photographers have been staging photos of Gazan civilians for propaganda efforts. While acknowledging the severity of the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, the investigation found that photographers including Anas Zayed Fteiah — who primarily shoots for the Turkish state-backed Anadolu Agency — were selectively staging images to “depict chaos and destruction” in order to serve Hamas’s propaganda wing and influence public opinion. Fteiah is active in the Europe Palestine Network, which promotes international “resistance” against Israel.
International Outlets Using Photos: Fteiah’s photos have been published by numerous international media outlets covering Gaza, including Stern, New York Magazine, CNN, and the BBC. One of his photos, depicting starving Gazan women and children desperately brandishing pots and pans to receive food, was published on the cover of the August 1 edition of TIME Magazine. Süddeutsche Zeitung ran a photograph of Fteiah taking the picture, revealing that the pots and pans were held out for the purposes of the photograph, and not to receive food. Other photos from the same location showed adult males calmly receiving food.
Hamas Media Censorship in Gaza: The investigation emphasized that Hamas has complete control over media coverage in the Gaza Strip and suppresses negative coverage. The Committee to Protect Journalists has reported that Hamas terrorists have beaten journalists and photographers, including threatening the lives of their families, to suppress independent coverage. Other journalists in Gaza have also been credibly accused of being fighters for Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terrorist organization. Hamas has also hired journalists, likeTamer Meshal of the Qatari-owned Al Jazeera broadcaster, to stage and direct its hostage release ceremonies.
confused2Aug 9, 2025 10:33 PM (This post was last modified: Aug 9, 2025 11:17 PM by confused2.)
Four feeding stations and 2 million people.
So 500,000 per station
Assuming they collect 1 weeks worth of food for 5 people that's 100,000 visits per week.
To keep the numbers simple let's say the feed stations are open 5 days a week .. so 20,000 people collecting every day from each station
A UK queue of 20,000 people would be 4 miles long .. I'm not sure these folk queue like the English .. I'm guessing there'd be more like an undisciplined crowd .. unless you know better.
There's another problem.. folks wouldn't know whether it is their day to collect food so every able bodied person would turn up to collect food .. any extra they got (capitalism!) they could always sell. So maybe crowds of 100,000 or more at each station.
The BBC reports .. on the first day ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gep705527o )
"The situation was extremely difficult. They only allowed 50 people to cross at a time," one man told BBC Arabic's Middle East daily radio programme. "In the end, chaos broke out - people climbed over the gates, attacked others, and took all the [aid]."
This is the propaganda you want "Who could have foreseen chaos breaking out?" 9_9 ????
So far I haven't seen any evidence of folks having received a letter or email telling them when and where to turn up - is there even the infrastructure for that to happen?
I don't hear two very important things.
1. Where are the images of starving adults, or even legitimately starving children (not the result of a preexisting medical conditions)?
2. Where's the pressure on the UN to cooperate with a secure distribution of the 950 truckloads of aid they already have in Gaza?
If there's no evidence of 1, there's no crisis.
If there is a crisis, even without evidence of 1, why isn't the UN acting like it?
(Aug 9, 2025 11:51 PM)Syne Wrote: I don't hear two very important things.
1. Where are the images of starving adults, or even legitimately starving children (not the result of a preexisting medical conditions)?
2. Where's the pressure on the UN to cooperate with a secure distribution of the 950 truckloads of aid they already have in Gaza?
If there's no evidence of 1, there's no crisis.
If there is a crisis, even without evidence of 1, why isn't the UN acting like it?
Getting an adult (or child) to starve photogenically without sharing the free food the photographer is eating would suggest moral turpitude. I think you (we) should respect Hamas et al for not going there.
Four feeding stations are working perfectly well (see your point 1.) ( see also my point about the possible difficulty of queuing for food) .. the UN are cooperating .. though they might not see it that way .. all is going according to plan.
(Aug 9, 2025 11:51 PM)Syne Wrote: I don't hear two very important things.
1. Where are the images of starving adults, or even legitimately starving children (not the result of a preexisting medical conditions)?
2. Where's the pressure on the UN to cooperate with a secure distribution of the 950 truckloads of aid they already have in Gaza?
If there's no evidence of 1, there's no crisis.
If there is a crisis, even without evidence of 1, why isn't the UN acting like it?
Getting an adult (or child) to starve photogenically without sharing the free food the photographer is eating would suggest moral turpitude. I think you (we) should respect Hamas et al for not going there.
Four feeding stations are working perfectly well (see your point 1.) ( see also my point about the possible difficulty of queuing for food) .. the UN are cooperating .. though they might not see it that way .. all is going according to plan.
Wow, that's some mental gymnastics there.
You really think a single meal from a photographer will instantly solve emaciation? Are you retarded?
Hamas has gone there, with their hostage (a war crime they posted video of themselves).
No, the UN is not cooperating with the GHF. You're imagining things to affirm your bias.
Syne Wrote:You really think a single meal from a photographer will instantly solve emaciation? Are you retarded?
National Geographic aren't operating in the area .. this would be a Hamas photographer making publicity for Hamas. They either make it their business to see their folks aren't starving or they don't .. which way do you want it to be? Stealing (free) food and selling it or distributing it to people who need it most (or both)? Make up your own propaganda.
The hostage video .. one of several indications that some folks really hate the Israelis.
The idea of a Palestinian state without Hamas is a sort of possible light at the end of the tunnel. A possible alternative is that 2 million people go down fighting (with Hamas) simply because they have no alternative.
So while Hamas would have the greatest incentive to show emaciated Gazans, to push their anti-Israel propaganda, they can't find any?
Again, that belies the starvation narrative.
Did you give up on your claim the UN was cooperating to distribute their amassed aid?
Netanyahoo is pledging to take over Gaza City now and "destroy Hamas". Not that Israel doesn't ALREADY occupy Gaza. What's he been doing for the last 2 years?
Having Israel take over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is like having a serial killer take over you and your family's healthcare...
Quote:Did you give up on your claim the UN was cooperating to distribute their amassed aid?
As I understood it the declared aim of setting up four feeding stations under Israeli control was to prevent Hamas stealing food .. you agree? This is really quite simple .. as far as I know there are still only four feeding stations and they are still under Israeli control. Just look at the number at the start (four) and the number now (four) ..assuming the 'four' is still correct then all other agencies have accepted the Israeli plan.. whether willingly or unwillingly makes no difference.
Quote:So while Hamas would have the greatest incentive to show emaciated Gazans, to push their anti-Israel propaganda, they can't find any?
It is possible Hamas don't want to be seen as terrorists by supporters outside Gaza and by their own people within. Nobody wants to put out 'own goal' propaganda .. so true or not true .. could be either .. you have to make up your own propaganda.
The starving Israeli hostage .. possibly more leak than intentional propaganda ..obviously (?) what Israelis (and others) would expect to see. It explains everything that has happened since October 7. What it doesn't explain is what happened before. We're seeing what we would expect to see if Israel didn't secure the border with Gaza .. so why wasn't the border secure?
(Aug 10, 2025 11:18 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Netanyahoo is pledging to take over Gaza City now and "destroy Hamas". Not that Israel doesn't ALREADY occupy Gaza. What's he been doing for the last 2 years?
Having Israel take over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza is like having a serial killer take over you and your family's healthcare...
As usual, you're ignorant of the difference between a military presence and a military occupation.
You're also a pussy antisemitic punk who keeps repeating terrorist lies while being too chickshit to address all the counter-evidence.
(Aug 10, 2025 11:58 PM)confused2 Wrote: In reverse order..
Quote:Did you give up on your claim the UN was cooperating to distribute their amassed aid?
As I understood it the declared aim of setting up four feeding stations under Israeli control was to prevent Hamas stealing food .. you agree? This is really quite simple .. as far as I know there are still only four feeding stations and they are still under Israeli control. Just look at the number at the start (four) and the number now (four) ..assuming the 'four' is still correct then all other agencies have accepted the Israeli plan.. whether willingly or unwillingly makes no difference.
Mmm, looks like MR's illiteracy is contagious. Or is it senility?
UN has 950 truckloads of aid inside Gaza. Israel and the GHF cannot legally distribute that UN-owned aid without the consent of the UN. Since the UN will not cooperate, all that aid is just going to waste. So it doesn't seem like the UN really believes anyone is starving.
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Quote:So while Hamas would have the greatest incentive to show emaciated Gazans, to push their anti-Israel propaganda, they can't find any?
It is possible Hamas don't want to be seen as terrorists by supporters outside Gaza and by their own people within. Nobody wants to put out 'own goal' propaganda .. so true or not true .. could be either .. you have to make up your own propaganda.
The starving Israeli hostage .. possibly more leak than intentional propaganda ..obviously (?) what Israelis (and others) would expect to see. It explains everything that has happened since October 7. What it doesn't explain is what happened before. We're seeing what we would expect to see if Israel didn't secure the border with Gaza .. so why wasn't the border secure?
The emaciated hostage videos were the only unintentional "own goal" propaganda released (not leaked). They were intended to rile up the families and supporters of hostages against their own government, but just exposed Hamas war crimes instead.
How do you imagine emaciated Gazans would be an "own goal," considering the legacy media and leftist countries all think it would be Israel's doing?
Hamas used a barrage of rockets to breach the heavily fortified border on Oct 7th.
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