Dr. Gary Nolan on why NHIs want us to see them

[Syne]

Ahem...

Non-human intelligence (NHI) may refer to:
Artificial intelligence, the intelligence of machines or software
Extraterrestrial intelligence, the intelligence of life outside of Earth
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-human_intelligence

Superhuman : being above the human : divine
- https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/superhuman

You're just lumping whatever you like under a very vague term, like your poor reading comprehension is wont to do. Words are only useful if they have definite meanings.
You believe because you want to. Period. And the fact that you can't even admit the weakness of your so-called evidence is proof of how fragile your belief is.
But then, your grasp of what constitutes scientific evidence has always been as lacking as your grasp of simple English.

[Magical Realist]

A NHI could also be a superhuman intelligence as indeed most evidence for aliens exhibit in terms of their technologies and mental capabilities. But that doesn't mean they are God. God could be described as having superhuman attributes but he is still a non human intelligence. There is no way around this. You believe in NHIs just as all religious people do. Spirits, angels, demons, fairies, djinn, gods, etc. It's the same exact thing.

[Syne]

No, you're just using that as a vague catchall. It's the same ploy nutters use with "UAP" and eco-nuts use with "climate change." Just use a more vague word that could describe a wide variety of "possibilities," that way you're not pinned down to defending any one thing or theory. It allows you to play this nonsense "you believe too" game, when any sane person knows everything you're lumping together is very distinct. Vagary is the crutch of the simple-minded where nuance and specifics are the realm of the intelligent.

But thank you for so readily affirming the bullshit use of the term "NHI." I couldn't have illustrated my point any better.

[Magical Realist]

One uses general terms when denoting things we haven't specifically identified yet. That's the nature of all incremental discovery in any field. Initially science will refer to a new phenomenon as an "anomaly" since it doesn't have enough information about what it truly is yet. Later on it can name it something more specific. The same is true with uaps, which denote a phenomenon we haven't identified yet. So NHI's also refer to a phenomenon that has been reported numerous times and yet is still too non-specific to be identified. NHI allows us to stay open to multiple identities for such beings without narrowly confining ourselves to just ETs or interdimensionals or ultraterrestrials or paranormal entities or cryptids or egregors or AI. It is a placeholder for a whole class of anomalous experiences that have been recorded since the beginning of time and continue even to this day.

I recently read a book by religious scholar Diane Paluka entitled "Encounters: Experiences With Nonhuman Intelligences". She introduced me to the usage of the term NHI and its application to a broad range of contact phenomena ranging from angels to the Greys. Here's an excerpt from one of her recent interviews:

DP: "The most sophisticated people who study UFOs/UAPs, from what I can surmise, do not make conclusions about the nature of the phenomena. There are patterns to these events, and distinct characteristics. I’ve heard different theories. Dr. Hal Puthoff, who is a physicist, proposed that they are ‘ultraterresterials,’ which, as you state, are not necessarily from other planets. They might be here on Earth. Some speculate that the phenomena is interdimensional. Former longtime NASA historian Dr. Steven Dick has written about speculations that they are AI or technological, or that if we meet them eventually, we would meet their technology.

Q: Jacques Vallée is the eminence grise of UFO culture, and as far as I know, is not a Christian. Yet your report that he has a shelf full of books about angels and demons in his apartment, and that when you visited, he urged you to read a collection of scholarly essays about Satan. How do you interpret this?

DP: Jacques, who has a wonderful sense of humor, made it clear that he recommended a book by French authors about the history of Satan as an example of an approach to the phenomenon that is not sensationalist. One of the most important books about the phenomenon happens to be his book Passport to Magonia, which was published in 1968. In that book, Jacques did a deep dive into European history and related modern-day UFO events to folk traditions like fairy lore, and religious events. When I read Passport, I was immediately struck by its similarity to the work of religious studies scholars. Jacques is an astronomer and an information studies scientist, to be clear.

What I took from that experience was that, just as I had surmised, there is a phenomenon that has been with us humans for a long time. As horrifying as this is for scholars to admit, it appears to be transhistorical. We might use different cultural frameworks to describe it, but there it is. Events like this—contact events—have been reported and are still being reported. It appears that our rationalist categories and science have not erased it from existence, as Carl Sagan would have preferred (in his later years). In fact, some of the best of our scientists know about this topic and have even had experiences with it."----
https://europeanconservative.com/article...h-pasulka/

[Syne]

Again, learn to read. I didn't say anything about "things we haven't specifically identified yet."
I said you were lumping in things we already have terms for. Citing people doing the same is just crackpot solidarity.

[Magical Realist]

Again, learn to read. I didn't say anything about "things we haven't specifically identified yet." I said you were lumping in things we already have terms for.

It's a category describing a phenomenon we haven't identified yet. Nobody knows yet the identity of uaps or NHIs if indeed there even is one. Hence the utility of having a category we can refer to that phenomenon by.

[Syne]

And if you'd only used it to refer to alien intelligence (and other woo), that would have been the end of it.
But you're so invested in it that you tried to proselytize and claim I believed in NHI, when I'd already told you that the divine is superhuman.

Apparently the vocabulary lesson was lost on you.

[Magical Realist]

And if you'd only used it to refer to alien intelligence (and other woo), that would have been the end of it.
But you're so invested in it that you tried to proselytize and claim I believed in NHI, when I'd already told you that the divine is superhuman.

Like I said, God is a non-human intelligence and so axiomatically falls into that category. Calling it superhuman doesn't change that at all. Aliens appear to be superhuman too, but they're still NHIs. Neither category is logically exclusive of the other.

[Syne]

Aliens don't appear to be anything, since we've never seen them.

Like I've said for years, you're a "true believer." And now you've moved to proselytizing your unquestioned faith.
Unless you're now claiming that extra terrestrials are divine, there is an obviously distinction. Just because you want to lump everything together under your woo umbrella term doesn't actually make it so.

Not that anyone is accusing you of understanding the distinction between simple terms.

[Magical Realist]

Aliens don't appear to be anything, since we've never seen them.

Thousands of accounts of uaps and alien encounters/abductions say otherwise...

Like I've said for years, you're a "true believer." And now you've moved to proselytizing your unquestioned faith.

I'm a true believer in many things based on evidence. Quantum entanglement, evolution, consciousness, the afterlife, black holes, etc. And I'm not about to stop posting this evidence because you can't handle it. I've been doing it for years, and with the increasing accounts of uaps and NHI encounters I will continue without hesitation...

Unless you're now claiming that extra terrestrials are divine, there is an obviously distinction. Just because you want to lump everything together under your woo umbrella term doesn't actually make it so.

No moron. I'm claiming aliens are examples of superhuman intelligences just as God is. And they are both examples of NHIs. So get used to it.