Trump falsely accuses Ukraine of starting the war

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Magical Realist Offline
(Feb 24, 2025 08:06 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Feb 24, 2025 12:28 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Synthia

This type of insult reinforces the idea that being "like a woman" is a bad thing. That’s a bit rich coming from you, MR.

Yes...that would follow from it being an "insult"..

It's a joke in response to Synthia's claim that men have no problem being referred to as women or as feminine. It's part of his absurd argument that transgenders are weird to be offended by being referred to as their unidentified with gender. So I'm basically testing that premise.
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confused2 Online
My guess is that the best way to seal the fate of Ukraine would be for an American to brag that they've done a deal with Zelensky and they're actually going to make a profit out of Putin's invasion.
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Syne Offline
(Feb 24, 2025 10:14 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Feb 24, 2025 08:06 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Feb 24, 2025 12:28 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Synthia

This type of insult reinforces the idea that being "like a woman" is a bad thing. That’s a bit rich coming from you, MR.

Yes...that would follow from it being an "insult"..

It's a joke in response to Synthia's claim that men have no problem being referred to as women or as feminine. It's part of his absurd argument that transgenders are weird to be offended by being referred to as their unidentified with gender. So I'm basically testing that premise.

I never said that, moron. I said men do not freak out about it, like we've seen in countless videos of trannies screaming about being misgendered.
But it does illustrate your hypocrisy. That you'd never dead-name or misgender a tranny. Typical leftist. As long as it's people who disagree with you, you'll be as racist, misogynist, misgendering, etc. as you like.

But keep it up. Doesn't faze me and just continues to make you look like a misgendering misogynist.

(Feb 24, 2025 09:32 PM)Yazata Wrote: I think that a very good case can be made that Ukraine, the US and our European "allies" created the conditions that led to the Ukraine war breaking out. Certainly from the Russian perspective it looks that way.
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The thing is, a negotiated settlement of the war will only happen if both sides' concerns are addressed. I think that President Trump and his people are trying to do that and that they are to be applauded for their efforts to halt the biggest war in Europe since World War II, a war that is killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of young men.

Great summary, Yaz. I personally have internet friends that are Russian, so I try to see the war as objectively as I can. Hating all Russians is not better than hating all Jews, blacks, etc..
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Well this is a new one on me. I've never heard anyone try and morally and rationally justify a much more powerful Communist nation going in and invading a much smaller Democratic nation and violating their supreme sovereign right of self-rule and freedom. Least of all the war-hawk conservatives. The whole Republican party has become a bunch of spineless Putin sell-outs, totally betraying all their former moral principles in their mindless support for whatever dumb bullshit their orange godfather spouts. Talk about "commie sympathizers"!
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confused2 Online
(Feb 25, 2025 02:55 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Well this is a new one on me. I've never heard anyone try and morally and rationally justify a much more powerful Communist nation going in and invading a much smaller Democratic nation and violating their supreme sovereign right of self-rule and freedom. Least of all the war-hawk conservatives. The whole Republican party has become a bunch of spineless Putin sell-outs, totally betraying all their former moral principles in their mindless support for whatever dumb bullshit their orange godfather spouts. Talk about "commie sympathizers"!

Nah, just think about the lithium mines.

If Trump plays his cards right he'll have Russians defending Elon's mines from the Ukrainians .. though it could go either way.
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Syne Offline
MR is the only one here being a war hawk, wanting an endless or escalated war.
Self-rule only exists where you can defend yourself. Otherwise, you're a proxy ruler of those who do have the power and will to defend you.
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#47
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Quote:Self-rule only exists where you can defend yourself.

Sounds like bullshit to me. So if a country like Switzerland can't defend itself from an invading country, then it doesn't have the right of self-rule? You're an idiot. Get a college education..

"The Westphalian system, also known as Westphalian sovereignty, is a principle in international law that each state has exclusive sovereignty over its territory. The principle developed in Europe after the Peace of Westphalia in 1648, based on the state theory of Jean Bodin and the natural law teachings of Hugo Grotius. It underlies the modern international system of sovereign states and is enshrined in the United Nations Charter, which states that "nothing ... shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state."[1]

According to the principle, every state, no matter how large or small, has an equal right to sovereignty."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_system

(Feb 25, 2025 03:59 AM)confused2 Wrote:
(Feb 25, 2025 02:55 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Well this is a new one on me. I've never heard anyone try and morally and rationally justify a much more powerful Communist nation going in and invading a much smaller Democratic nation and violating their supreme sovereign right of self-rule and freedom. Least of all the war-hawk conservatives. The whole Republican party has become a bunch of spineless Putin sell-outs, totally betraying all their former moral principles in their mindless support for whatever dumb bullshit their orange godfather spouts. Talk about "commie sympathizers"!

Nah, just think about the lithium mines.

If Trump plays his cards right he'll have Russians defending Elon's mines from the Ukrainians .. though it could go either way.

"Art of the Deal"? lol!
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Syne Offline
Funny you should mention Switzerland, which has such a high rate of gun ownership. Far above that of Ukraine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_...by_country
So Switzerland is a very bad example of a country poorly equipped to defend itself.

If Ukraine had been the 19th most armed, instead of the 88th, Putin may have thought twice about invading.
I think you've managed to make my point for me.

Thanks,
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Magical Realist Offline
(Feb 25, 2025 05:21 AM)Syne Wrote: Funny you should mention Switzerland, which has such a high rate of gun ownership. Far above that of Ukraine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_...by_country
So Switzerland is a very bad example of a country poorly equipped to defend itself.

If Ukraine had been the 19th most armed, instead of the 88th, Putin may have thought twice about invading.
I think you've managed to make my point for me.

Thanks,

No moron. High gun ownership is no match for an invading country's military. To even think so is just ignorant.
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(Feb 25, 2025 03:59 AM)confused2 Wrote:
(Feb 25, 2025 02:55 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Well this is a new one on me. I've never heard anyone try and morally and rationally justify a much more powerful Communist nation going in and invading a much smaller Democratic nation and violating their supreme sovereign right of self-rule and freedom. Least of all the war-hawk conservatives. The whole Republican party has become a bunch of spineless Putin sell-outs, totally betraying all their former moral principles in their mindless support for whatever dumb bullshit their orange godfather spouts. Talk about "commie sympathizers"!

Nah, just think about the lithium mines.

If Trump plays his cards right he'll have Russians defending Elon's mines from the Ukrainians .. though it could go either way.

If that happens the lithium will be classed as a "conflict material". It might be fine for US domestic consumer to use, but the rest of the world could Tariff it.
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