Article Do atheism and social justice activism owe a big debt to Jesus?

[Syne]

Welp, you asked for it.

Simple English, moron. Anytime you add a qualifier to a word, you are limiting the word.
"Social justice is justice in relation to the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society where individuals' rights are recognized and protected."-wiki
The redistribution of wealth is injustice for those who worked to earn/produce it. Hence social justice is less than justice.

"Class oppression, sometimes referred to as classism, can be defined as prejudice and discrimination based on social class. Class is a social ranking system which is based on income, wealth, education, status, and power."-wiki
Oppressed classes are an oppression Olympics, where the oppressed actually gain social status and power depending on how many oppressed classes they identify with (intersectionality). Hence oppressed classes are less than oppressed.

Jesus never taught that wealth, opportunities, etc. should be taken from some people by force (usually government threat) and given to others. Jesus only taught 100% voluntary charity. Jesus never taught that we should view the oppressed as classes, where an individual's overlap in several oppressed classes somehow lends them virtue. Virtue is only a result of following God's will.

[Magical Realist]

"Social justice is justice"

LOL Well that wraps that up! Tks for confirming that.

"Class oppression, sometimes referred to as classism, can be defined as prejudice and discrimination based on social class. Class is a social ranking system which is based on income, wealth, education, status, and power.

Oppressed classes is not the same as class oppression dufus. Oppressed classes include the poor, the disabled, foreigners, women, immigrants, LGBT, different races and ethnicities, sex workers, the homeless, senior citizens, the mentally ill, illiterate people, etc. Class oppression is just oppression based on social status and income. But then you knew that.

[Syne]

"Social justice is justice"

LOL Well that wraps that up! Tks for confirming that.

Yes, I'd expect an illiterate like you to simply stop reading before it got complicated with "...in relation to..."
Anything to retain the moronic notion that "social" does nothing to qualify "justice," despite the English language.

"Class oppression, sometimes referred to as classism, can be defined as prejudice and discrimination based on social class. Class is a social ranking system which is based on income, wealth, education, status, and power.

Oppressed classes is not the same as class oppression dufus. Oppressed classes include the poor, the disabled, foreigners, women, immigrants, LGBT, different races and ethnicities, sex workers, the homeless, senior citizens, the mentally ill, etc. Class oppression is just oppression based on social status and income. But then you knew that.

So you're saying being poor, disabled, foreign, female, immigrant, LGBT, different races and ethnicities, sex workers, the homeless, senior citizens, the mentally ill, etc. are not subject to "prejudice and discrimination based on" "income,...status [or] power?"

If not income, status, or power, how are these classes oppressed? 9_9

[Magical Realist]

So you're saying being poor, disabled, foreign, female, immigrant, LGBT, different races and ethnicities, sex workers, the homeless, senior citizens, the mentally ill, etc. are not subject to "prejudice and discrimination based on" "income,...status [or] power?"

Nope..their discrimination isn't based on them being in a lower class. It's based on who they are: their disability, their accent or language differences , their sex, their country of origin, their sexual orientation, their skin color and ethnicity, their means of employment, their age, their inability to read, their being houseless, and so on. This should be more than obvious to anyone with a brain.

[Syne]

Apparently the extremely simple is forever beyond your grasp.

According to you, you can oppress people who have more income, status, or power than yourself, and things like disability, sex, ethnicity have zero effect on one's income, status, or power. You can certainly oppress people for a wide variety of reasons and motivations, but how are you capable of oppressing them? Income, status, and power? Or can you actually oppress someone with nothing more than your personal opinion?

[Magical Realist]

You can certainly oppress people for a wide variety of reasons and motivations, but how are you capable of oppressing them?

There's not enough space to list the thousands of ways these oppressed classes suffer discrimination and oppression for their differences. The rude waitress. The turned down jobs. The taxi that drives on by. The lack of eye contact on the street. The crime victimization. The hateful neighbors. The being pulled over for nothing by cops. The impatient or overwatchful store clerks. A gay nightclub shot up. Another mosque vandalized. So here's something you can do. Go ask some of these people how they are discriminated against and excluded in our society. But then that of course will require some empathy on your part, a quality I'm not entirely sure you're capable of.

[Syne]

You're a moron. Lack of eye contact, rudeness, taxis, etc. are not oppression. Those people have chosen to be victims, simply by how they choose to interpret otherwise innocuous actions of others. People I know, who share every characteristic of any anyone supposedly "oppressed," don't see themselves as oppressed. So it's clearly a self-fulfilling thought.

Real oppression can only occur in an imbalance of income, status, or power.

[Magical Realist]

"In a social justice context, oppression is what happens when individuals or groups of people are discriminated against or otherwise treated unjustly, whether by the government, private organizations, individuals, or other groups. (The word comes from the Latin root "opprimere," which means "pressed down.") Here are 12 different forms of oppression—although the list is by no means comprehensive.

The categories describe patterns of behavior and not necessarily belief systems. A person can have strong beliefs in favor of social equality and still practice oppression through their actions. In many cases, these categories of oppression overlap in such a way that one person can potentially deal with multiple forms of oppression and privilege at the same time. The experience of multiple and differing forms of oppression is described by the term "intersectionality."

Sexism, or the belief that cisgender men are superior to cisgender women on the basis of sex, has been an almost universal condition of civilization. Whether rooted in biology or culture or both, sexism tends to force women into subservient, restrictive roles that many do not want, and to force men into dominant, competitive roles that many do not want.

Heterosexism describes the pattern in which people are assumed to be heterosexual. Since not everybody is heterosexual, the outliers may be punished with ridicule, restriction of partnership rights, discrimination, arrest, and even death.

Cisgender refers to people whose gender identity is typically associated with the sex they were assigned at birth. Cisgenderism or cisnormativity is a form of oppression that assumes that everyone who is assigned male at birth exists as a man and everyone who is assigned female at birth exists as a woman. Cisgenderism discriminates against and does not take into account people who do not identify with their assigned sex at birth, and the gender roles associated with them or those who do not have clearly defined or binary gender roles (binary transgender people or nonbinary transgender people).

Classism is a social pattern in which wealthy or influential people congregate with each other and oppress those who are less wealthy or less influential. Classism also establishes rules about whether and under what circumstances members of one class may cross over into another class—for example, via marriage or work.

Racism
Whereas bigotry means having an intolerance for people of other races and religions, racism assumes that those from other races are actually genetically inferior human beings. Racism acts on this belief with political, systemic, social, and institutional power. Power is necessary to operationalize racism. Without it, beliefs of genetic inferiority are simply prejudice. Racism has prevailed throughout human history as a justification for a host of oppressive actions.

Colorism is a social pattern in which people are treated differently based on the amount of visible melanin in the skin. A number of studies show that lighter-skinned Black Americans or Latinos receive preferential treatment over their darker-skinned counterparts. Colorism is not the same thing as racism, but the two tend to go together.

Ableism is a social pattern in which people who are disabled are treated differently, to an unnecessary degree, than those who are not. This could take the form of either not accommodating those with physical or mental disabilities or treating them as if they are unable to live without assistance.


Lookism is a social pattern in which people whose faces and/or bodies fit social ideals are treated differently from people whose faces and/or bodies do not. Standards of beauty vary from culture to culture, but just about every human society has them.

Sizeism or fatphobia is a social pattern in which people whose bodies fit social ideals are treated differently from people whose bodies do not. In contemporary Western society, people with a slender build are generally considered more attractive than people who are heavy.

Ageism is a social pattern in which people of a certain chronological age are treated differently, to an unnecessary degree, than those who are not. One example is Hollywood's unspoken "expiration date" for women, a date beyond which it is difficult to get work because a person is no longer considered young and/or attractive.


Nativism is a social pattern in which people who are born in a given country are treated differently from those who immigrate to it, to the benefit of natives.

Colonialism is a social pattern in which people who are born in a given country are treated differently from those who immigrate to it, usually to the benefit of a specific identifiable group of powerful immigrants. This involves a process of powerful immigrants overtaking the country and holistically exploiting its resources"

https://www.thoughtco.com/types-of-oppression-721173

[Syne]

"In a social justice context, oppression is...

See, those two are incestuous. Only the less-than-justice of social justice insists that less-than-oppression is oppression.
As I originally said, its just the victim Olympics of morons.

No wonder MR is sold on it.

[Magical Realist]

Social justice is a type of justice:

"Justice is the concept of fairness. Social justice is fairness as it manifests in society. That includes fairness in healthcare, employment, housing, and more. In a socially-just society, human rights are respected and discrimination is not allowed to flourish."------
https://www.humanrightscareers.com/issue...tice-mean/

"Social justice, in contemporary politics, social science, and political philosophy, the fair treatment and equitable status of all individuals and social groups within a state or society. The term also is used to refer to social, political, and economic institutions, laws, or policies that collectively afford such fairness and equity and is commonly applied to movements that seek fairness, equity, inclusion, self-determination, or other goals for currently or historically oppressed, exploited, or marginalized populations.

In theoretical terms, social justice is often understood to be equivalent to justice itself, however that concept is defined. Many somewhat narrower interpretations conceive of social justice as being equivalent to or partly constitutive of distributive justice—that is, the fair and equitable distribution of social, political, and economic benefits and burdens."---
https://www.britannica.com/topic/social-justice