Mick West is debunking drones now

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Secular Sanity Offline
(Dec 16, 2024 03:43 AM)C C Wrote: The surge may have been hampered by new requirements for registration, and a mandate that applicable drones had to be equipped with Remote ID (the broadcast variety). A deadline for the latter was extended to September and then yet again to March 2024, because both manufacturers and owners were slow in implementing and complying with the enhancement.

After the final revised date passed, the remaining multitude of laggards were presumably subject to fines or whatever, perhaps curbing them from taking to the sky. By late fall, most may have finally upgraded and felt more secure about droning at night (or anytime).

The FAA has not instituted network-based Remote ID due to more research needed, so accordingly there's no deadline set for that particular type of it (so far).

And yeah, the irony of demanding Remote ID and still an inability on the part of authorities to identify the source of drones is not lost. Wink

Wow, that’s some sleuthing right there. Thanks, CC!

The video said the broadcast is publicly available.

"Remote ID is a publicly available broadcast from a UAS that can be received through applications for concerned members of the general public. Those authorized to request additional information may include aviation safety inspectors, law enforcement, and air traffic security specialists."

https://youtu.be/DPygWZ3jyAo?si=-9EZlI1BpApLC6Re

(Dec 16, 2024 05:06 AM)Yazata Wrote: Wright Patterson Air Force Base (in Dayton OH) airspace closed ("sterilized") from Friday night into Saturday morning due to "heavy unknown UAS activity".

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1868482620574830951

What are your thoughts, Yazata? What do you think is going on?
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(Dec 16, 2024 05:06 AM)Yazata Wrote: Wright Patterson Air Force Base (in Dayton OH) airspace closed ("sterilized") from Friday night into Saturday morning due to "heavy unknown UAS activity".

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1868482620574830951

First time drones have entered that area, according to a Cleveland news article. For other bases in NJ, it's a rather routine thing that they claim they've had to deal with for years. So it sounds like drone owners are beginning to deliberately contribute to this trendy meme by flying into areas they never have before.
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(Dec 16, 2024 09:14 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: What are your thoughts, Yazata? What do you think is going on?

Hi SS!

I really don't know what is going on and can only speculate.

Some of the photos of purported-drones over NJ that I've seen looked to me like conventional aircraft flying at night with lights on. Some appeared to be in their approach patterns with landing lights lit.

So I'll say that I believe that many, perhaps most, of these sightings are probably conventional aircraft that were misidentified by those making the reports. Size, altitude and movement estimates can be notoriously inaccurate, especially at night. The New York City and Philadelphia area has many airports and the skies are going to be filled with planes at all hours.

Once this social-hysteria thing took off in the media, probably lots of people were out looking at the skies who might not have done that in decades. They were all primed to see drones and weren't prepared for what is up there every night.

Hence I agree with Mick so far.

But some of these sightings are coming from people who can be expected to be familiar with the appearance of aircraft at night. Other pilots and air traffic controllers in airport control towers. Some of them military.

I'm doubtful that the misidentified aircraft hypothesis accounts for all of the sightings. So I'm inclined to think that there really is some unidentified phenomenon that set off all of this excitement. It might only represent a minority of the sighting reports, but something seems to be happening.

It could be countless hobbyist drone operators getting out of hand. Or it could be something more organized and sinister. I don't know.

The government doesn't seem to know either.

And they seem to be botching their response. It doesn't even make sense: saying both that they don't know what the "drones" are and that they don't represent any threat. They are just creating the impression of disorganization and stonewalling, which isn't a good thing in the case of unknown aircraft above the United States.

I think that the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) should probably take ownership of this and take responsibility for getting to the bottom of it. Unknown aircraft intrusions is serious business.

Even if it's nothing right now, potential adversaries like China are doubtless watching and taking note of how hopelessly lame our air defense response has been to possible drone incursions. It's a vulnerability that somebody might exploit in the future.
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Secular Sanity Offline
Your answers are always well thought out and logical, which is rather soothing in today’s world.

Thanks, Yazata!
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"Conspiracy theories have run wild after multiple unexplained aerial phenomenons were spotted across the skies in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Maryland.

The flying objects have been rumoured to be drones, planes, or even UAPs (unidentified aerial phenomena). Even the FBI is not entirely sure what has been seen in the sky. One thing is for sure – it has left people panicked.

One bizarre conspiracy theory has re-emerged in light of the recent ‘drone’ activity and is being pushed by right-leaning influencers and celebrities.

Roseanne Barr, a former actress and outspoken supporter of Donald Trump, wrote on X: ‘Now you see why I mention Project Blue Beam every week on my podcast…’

‘Project Blue Beam’ refers to an outlandish theory that the ‘global elite’, which includes high-ranking government members, are attempting to establish a totalitarian world government by orchestrating fake alien or celestial events.

There is no basis to support this theory, which Canadian journalist Serge Monast first proposed.

Monast claimed ‘holographic’ technology would project religious imagery, catered to all beliefs, to trick populations into believing the world was ending, and allowing governments to exert totalitarian control.

The conspiracy theory has gained momentum as the US government still hasn’t revealed what is behind the ‘drones’ in the sky."

https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/16/project-b...kWTX0scI3Q
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Seems like we're not going to get any decent pictures of strange orange orbs or indeed anything else. I guess anyone with a good picture is either taken or zombified.
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Footage of battle between drones and orange orbs over Wright Patterson AFB..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsT2XlDYfFo

EDIT: The guy seems to ramble and repeat himself alot and is slow in presenting the actual video evidence. Also refers to Bible prophecy and the end of times. Take with a grain of salt.

4 orbs filmed by passenger on flight to Newark over Detroit at about 8,000 ft. Too high for drones:

https://www.the-express.com/news/weird-n...New-Jersey

Drone filmed interacting with an orb, then speeds away:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1...d_a_drone/

Here's better video of the orange orb taking down a drone. I was wrong. It was over Phoenix AZ not NJ on Dec 14th. Drone turns orange as it falls--on fire?

https://www.threads.net/@debperry1961/post/DDmuUlAP1Nr

High quality still of an orb taken at 1/30th of a second. Very strange!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3-7RKGvr1E

Note: Some are claiming video/stills of orbs when really it just appears to be an out of focus camera image perhaps of a star or a distant plane. Here's a possible example of such taken from a Channel 7 ABC news helicopter in NJ:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1867947576064168014
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