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Genocide double standard

#11
stryder Offline
SPLIT THE BABY! (wikipedia.org)

Both sides are in the wrong because neither is willing to find the common ground to live "together".

Every action they do currently just makes that potential that much more difficult to achieve. Which inturn means the outcome is just going to be complete annihilation while other states (like Iran) will just sit and laugh at their misfortunes.
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#12
C C Offline
In terms of hypocritical appearances, surrounding Arab countries refuse to accept Palestinian refugees. They actually have valid security concerns for that, but those are of the same category ilk that scholars, pundits, and their politician groupies reject as reasons for stemming the flood of global migrants and refugees crossing into the US at the southern border.

One is that mass exodus would risk bringing militants into those neighboring states, from where they might launch attacks on Israel, endangering peace treaties.

Another is fear that Israel would maintain a permanent expulsion of Palestinians into their countries and negate Palestinian demands for statehood.
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#13
Syne Offline
Pfft! The US had foreknowledge of 9/11, as well as the intelligence agencies of many other countries. The problem is that not even the US took it seriously.
Asserting "non-existent tunnels" while there's copious videos of them is absolute denialism.

(May 4, 2024 12:06 PM)stryder Wrote: SPLIT THE BABY! (wikipedia.org)

Both sides are in the wrong because neither is willing to find the common ground to live "together". 

Every action they do currently just makes that potential that much more difficult to achieve. Which inturn means the outcome is just going to be complete annihilation while other states (like Iran) will just sit and laugh at their misfortunes.

Pantywaist nonsense. Palestinians have repeatedly rejected every offer of a two-state solution for decades. There is only one side that's unwilling to live together, as Israel is home to more than 1.7 million Muslims, who also serve in government, while there are no known Jewish populations in the surrounding Muslim countries. "From the river to the sea" is a call for Jewish genocide that does not have any analog from Jews toward Muslims.

Not fighting terrorists just leads to more terrorism. I'd like to see you make the same argument if you were targeted for genocide.

Israel is the most advanced military in the Middle East, with the only close rival being Saudi Arabia, who also fears Iran... which is why they normalized relations with Israel. Israel is also a nuclear power. Iran will not get the opportunity to "sit and laugh," as they fund and admittedly direct most of the attacks against Israel. Why wouldn't Israel destroy the head of an existential attack? It wouldn't.
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#14
stryder Offline
(May 4, 2024 07:55 PM)Syne Wrote: Pantywaist nonsense. Palestinians have repeatedly rejected every offer of a two-state solution for decades. There is only one side that's unwilling to live together, as Israel is home to more than 1.7 million Muslims, who also serve in government, while there are no known Jewish populations in the surrounding Muslim countries. "From the river to the sea" is a call for Jewish genocide that does not have any analog from Jews toward Muslims.

Not fighting terrorists just leads to more terrorism. I'd like to see you make the same argument if you were targeted for genocide.

Israel is the most advanced military in the Middle East, with the only close rival being Saudi Arabia, who also fears Iran... which is why they normalized relations with Israel. Israel is also a nuclear power. Iran will not get the opportunity to "sit and laugh," as they fund and admittedly direct most of the attacks against Israel. Why wouldn't Israel destroy the head of an existential attack? It wouldn't.

Power sharing doesn't work when either side of that two state solution can't handle the other being in charge. Really it should be a three state solution, where those two states don't get to dictate control.
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Syne Offline
(May 4, 2024 09:10 PM)stryder Wrote:
(May 4, 2024 07:55 PM)Syne Wrote: Pantywaist nonsense. Palestinians have repeatedly rejected every offer of a two-state solution for decades. There is only one side that's unwilling to live together, as Israel is home to more than 1.7 million Muslims, who also serve in government, while there are no known Jewish populations in the surrounding Muslim countries. "From the river to the sea" is a call for Jewish genocide that does not have any analog from Jews toward Muslims.

Not fighting terrorists just leads to more terrorism. I'd like to see you make the same argument if you were targeted for genocide.

Israel is the most advanced military in the Middle East, with the only close rival being Saudi Arabia, who also fears Iran... which is why they normalized relations with Israel. Israel is also a nuclear power. Iran will not get the opportunity to "sit and laugh," as they fund and admittedly direct most of the attacks against Israel. Why wouldn't Israel destroy the head of an existential attack? It wouldn't.

Power sharing doesn't work when either side of that two state solution can't handle the other being in charge.  Really it should be a three state solution, where those two states don't get to dictate control.

When Muslims "being in charge" means literal genocide of the Jews, that obviously cannot happen. Unless of course, like our resident anti-Semite, you think the Holocaust didn't accomplish enough. Israel already allows Muslims in positions of power in the government (power sharing). So it's only Muslims who refuse to coexist. Israel has been an exemplary democracy in an otherwise wholly authoritarian region.

If you blame Israel for anything that is happening, you are literally blaming the victim. Most ethical people agree that blaming the victim is evil.
Playing this game of remaining neutral will only end up with you making excuses for terrorism.
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