Link between hurricane Katrina & anti-LGBTQ rhetoric (preacher grandstanding style)

#11
Syne Offline
(Aug 31, 2022 11:57 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 30, 2022 11:58 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Aug 30, 2022 01:31 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: It’s the ultimate attribution error where the cause is attributed to the traits of an outgroup, but what about the city’s levees failing due to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers design failures?

"...responsibility for maintenance belongs to the local levee boards" - wiki

"All concur that the primary cause of the flooding was inadequate design and construction by the Army Corps of Engineers"—wiki
Ahem...

Hard-hit St. Bernard Parish was flooded because of breaching of the levees that contained a navigation channel called the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MR-GO) and the breach of the 40 Arpent canal levee that was designed and built by the Orleans Levee Board. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_...ouisiana_2

When Katrina struck on August 29, 2005, the hurricane protection system was between 60–90% complete. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_levee...ew_Orleans


And from the NYT article your quote cites:

A high-profile 2006 report, underwritten by the National Science Foundation, upheld a common refrain: that local officials in New Orleans had contributed to the disaster by forcing the corps to build less-effective protection for the city than the corps had wanted to build.

The corps had proposed a plan that would have put gates at the mouths of the canals that could be closed as a storm approached. The city’s levee board members and other officials pushed for an alternate corps plan: the construction of several miles of levees and flood walls along the canals. - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/de...corps.html


Then that article goes on to play this little game of excuses to distract from the simple fact that the levee board selected which Army Corps of Engineers plan they wanted to be built.

Quote:And if you click on the link to the interview that you posted, you can read the entire statement. Violence isn’t limited to physical violence.
Yes, violence has literally been physical force until morons started redefining words in the last 5-10 years.
Equivocating in a way that blurs the line between vehemence and illegal physical force is intellectually suspect.
Reply
#12
C C Offline
(Aug 31, 2022 07:48 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I think this is a man. Err!

I'd still use "they" and "them" just to be on the safe side, though.

For instance, DPC (of "Wynona Earp") may have still been maintaining a girly-girl look when she they requested being referenced with non-binary pronouns. This is not the original photo on the Wikipedia entry, even after the gendered pronouns were eliminated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_...t-Chalkley
Reply
#13
Secular Sanity Offline
(Sep 1, 2022 12:18 AM)Syne Wrote: Ahem...

Hard-hit St. Bernard Parish was flooded because of breaching of the levees that contained a navigation channel called the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet (MR-GO) and the breach of the 40 Arpent canal levee that was designed and built by the Orleans Levee Board. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_...ouisiana_2

When Katrina struck on August 29, 2005, the hurricane protection system was between 60–90% complete. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_levee...ew_Orleans


And from the NYT article your quote cites:

A high-profile 2006 report, underwritten by the National Science Foundation, upheld a common refrain: that local officials in New Orleans had contributed to the disaster by forcing the corps to build less-effective protection for the city than the corps had wanted to build.

The corps had proposed a plan that would have put gates at the mouths of the canals that could be closed as a storm approached. The city’s levee board members and other officials pushed for an alternate corps plan: the construction of several miles of levees and flood walls along the canals. - https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/24/us/de...corps.html


Then that article goes on to play this little game of excuses to distract from the simple fact that the levee board selected which Army Corps of Engineers plan they wanted to be built.

Either way, it wasn’t a (God’s gonna get'cha for that) event. It’s a plain ole just-world bias. It’s a way to say that it couldn’t happen to me, but it also shows a lack of empathy and self-centeredness—a vile practice.

(Sep 1, 2022 04:53 AM)C C Wrote:
(Aug 31, 2022 07:48 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I think this is a man. Err!

I'd still use "they" and "them" just to be on the safe side, though.

For instance, DPC (of "Wynona Earp") may have still been maintaining a girly-girl look when she they requested being referenced with non-binary pronouns. This is not the original photo on the Wikipedia entry, even after the gendered pronouns were eliminated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_...t-Chalkley

Well, my assumptions are never as extreme as Yazata's. I checked. It's He/Him. 

Thanks, C C!
Reply
#14
Syne Offline
(Sep 1, 2022 02:29 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Either way, it wasn’t a (God’s gonna get'cha for that) event. It’s a plain ole just-world bias. It’s a way to say that it couldn’t happen to me, but it also shows a lack of empathy and self-centeredness—a vile practice.

Believe it or not, there are people who live their wholes lives without anything near such a disaster happening to them. Now you can call that luck, smarter choice of geography, etc.. But some people in tornado alley get pummeled multiple times, while everyone else watches from their front porch in morbid curiosity.

Either way, it's not "nice" to rub it in. But morality tales, such as Sodom and Gomorrah, can be both false and useful. Sin may not have caused it, but that doesn't make sin a good thing either.
Reply
#15
confused2 Offline
(Sep 2, 2022 12:59 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Sep 1, 2022 02:29 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Either way, it wasn’t a (God’s gonna get'cha for that) event. It’s a plain ole just-world bias. It’s a way to say that it couldn’t happen to me, but it also shows a lack of empathy and self-centeredness—a vile practice.

Believe it or not, there are people who live their wholes lives without anything near such a disaster happening to them. Now you can call that luck, smarter choice of geography, etc.. But some people in tornado alley get pummeled multiple times, while everyone else watches from their front porch in morbid curiosity.

Either way, it's not "nice" to rub it in. But morality tales, such as Sodom and Gomorrah, can be both false and useful. Sin may not have caused it, but that doesn't make sin a good thing either.
Similar to telling children the boogie man will get them if they don't behave .. but .. the boogie man is real .. at least for some people.

My guess is that the problem with (some) gay men is the number of partners not the 'being gay' in and of itself.
Reply
#16
Syne Offline
(Sep 2, 2022 12:59 PM)confused2 Wrote: My guess is that the problem with (some) gay men is the number of partners not the 'being gay' in and of itself.

At least as far as monkey pox goes.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  When algorithms amplified & slanted far-left rhetoric as the public voice (fashions) C C 2 323 Oct 2, 2025 01:30 AM
Last Post: C C
  Trump exploring link between leftist groups funding/spending & violence (antifa style C C 1 366 Sep 12, 2025 10:50 PM
Last Post: Yazata
  Ayaan Hirsi Ali on how Islamists exploit DEI to spread anti-Semitism (antiWest style) C C 0 417 Jul 27, 2024 12:30 AM
Last Post: C C
  Article Homophobic attacks in UK spur new wave of LGBTQ+ only housing (fashion or need?) C C 6 963 Jan 7, 2024 05:09 PM
Last Post: Zinjanthropos
  Article Muslim activist's speech against forced LGBTQ curriculum + End processed food tyranny C C 0 343 Jul 2, 2023 02:43 PM
Last Post: C C
  Over 100 academics warn not to adopt IHRA anti-Semitism definition (loophole style) C C 36 4,711 Nov 8, 2022 03:42 AM
Last Post: Syne
  Cancel fear inhibits teaching of anti-racism ideology in classroom? (ironic style) C C 1 409 Jul 27, 2022 03:18 AM
Last Post: RainbowUnicorn
  Space travel link to brain damage + Why the UK is studied by pandemic scientists C C 0 297 Nov 2, 2021 08:42 PM
Last Post: C C
  Noam Chomsky style + The Shat's style C C 0 897 Apr 5, 2017 04:11 PM
Last Post: C C
  Lark style versus Owl style: Sex, drugs, late nights, and psychopaths C C 0 1,133 Jul 21, 2016 05:34 AM
Last Post: C C



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)