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Russian Ukraine Invasion

RainbowUnicorn Offline

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/otoXUTMIb5w


Quote:Authorities in the Russian-controlled Ukrainian city of Kherson have closed the city's only bridge across the Dnipro river after it came under fire from U.S.-supplied high mobility artillery rocket systems (HIMARS), an official from the Russian-installed administration said on Wednesday (July 27). The Antonivskyi bridge has been closed for civilians but its structural integrity has not suffered from the shelling, Kirill Stremousov, deputy head of the Russian-imposed Kherson administration, told Interfax.

judging by the video i would suggest it has a few structural issues


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/5P1rFkgb6sQ

russia talking re building in occupied ukraine but russia doesn't have the money
puppet show
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Yazata Offline
There are many rumors of a coming Ukrainian offensive to try to ratake Kherson. (But little hard information.) The Dnepro river is huge and wide and difficult to cross without bridges. The city of Kherson is across the river, which is no doubt why the Ukrainians have been hitting the bridges connecting to the other Russian occupied areas with their HIMARS. The Russians have had to turn to ferries.

The Russians apparently believe the talk about a possible offensive and multiple military convoys have been observed rolling through Melitopol (different city than Mariupol) headed towards Kherson. So the Russians are sending in reinforcements.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...1294604293
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62344358

Russia and Ukraine trade blame over prison blast

Quote:Russian-backed separatist officials say 53 Ukrainian prisoners-of-war have been killed by Ukrainian shelling of a prison in separatist-held Donetsk.
Officials alleged that 75 others had been injured in a rocket strike on the prison camp in Olenivka. The BBC cannot independently verify this claim.
Ukraine's military denied carrying out the strike and instead accused Russia of shelling the prison.
It said Moscow was seeking to cover up evidence of torture at the site.
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C C Offline
(Jul 29, 2022 03:53 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62344358

Russia and Ukraine trade blame over prison blast

Quote:Russian-backed separatist officials say 53 Ukrainian prisoners-of-war have been killed by Ukrainian shelling of a prison in separatist-held Donetsk.
Officials alleged that 75 others had been injured in a rocket strike on the prison camp in Olenivka. The BBC cannot independently verify this claim.
Ukraine's military denied carrying out the strike and instead accused Russia of shelling the prison.
It said Moscow was seeking to cover up evidence of torture at the site.


Initially denying the Odessa seaport strike, and latter acknowledging it due to the ridiculous futility of the lie, greatly enhances the opinion that Russia was responsible for this, too. Would be remarkable if Turkey chimes in again that Mordor's finest "couldn't have done it", after getting egg on their face last time. But I guess that's what quasi-allies are for; take the pie in the face --and trade, tourism, etc will continue.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jul 29, 2022 05:05 PM)C C Wrote:
(Jul 29, 2022 03:53 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62344358

Russia and Ukraine trade blame over prison blast

Quote:Russian-backed separatist officials say 53 Ukrainian prisoners-of-war have been killed by Ukrainian shelling of a prison in separatist-held Donetsk.
Officials alleged that 75 others had been injured in a rocket strike on the prison camp in Olenivka. The BBC cannot independently verify this claim.
Ukraine's military denied carrying out the strike and instead accused Russia of shelling the prison.
It said Moscow was seeking to cover up evidence of torture at the site.


Initially denying the Odessa seaport strike, and latter acknowledging it due to the ridiculous futility of the lie, greatly enhances the opinion that Russia was responsible for this, too. Would be remarkable if Turkey chimes in again that Mordor's finest "couldn't have done it", after getting egg on their face last time. But I guess that's what quasi-allies are for; take the pie in the face --and trade, tourism, etc will continue.

Turkey is a big tourist destination for russians
dirty war profit tourism
blood money

The Bridge that Russia say is undamaged


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/4Og_ccTROZk

green on green(red on red)
Russia shoots down one of its own attack helicopters after it fired on russian positions
just days after russia shot down one of its own bombers.



https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/a_Bf3KwISio

Russia shoots down one of its own SU-35 40 million dollar fighter jets

  

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/dPZOUR7aQzo
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
after looking at the video and images
this looks like a sustained fire where everything has been fueled with something to burn it

was it russian phosphorous ?

notice the bodys laying in the beds burnt with intense heat
HIMARS would have caused explosive fragmentation
but everything looks in tact as if a fire has been started on the inside and burnt outward

i think it is far more likely that a fire started on the inside and they left them locked up until the entire building burnt down
there is no lack of crimes that the russian military have carried out in bucha and other places to show there is a lot of potential.
reports of systematic torture of prisoners is not only wide spread but torture of prisoners is russian culture and has a long history.



https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ZHtgXgJ5ARQ
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Kornee Offline
One serial anti-Russia poster has a pathological hatred of and gloats over any and all Russian military setbacks. Off meds too often maybe.
A more balanced perspective can be gained by studying the long history of 'friendly' fire here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fr..._incidents

PS - There will be inevitable omissions and biases in above list. One glaring politically motivated example relates to the so-called 'mistaken' ff involving USS Liberty incident of 1967. Not a single surviving member of that unfortunately intentionally targeted for destruction crew agreed with the absurd premise of 'friendly fire'. Try false flag - a different ff.
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stryder Offline
(Jul 31, 2022 07:09 AM)Kornee Wrote: One serial anti-Russia poster has a pathological hatred of and gloats over any and all Russian military setbacks. Off meds too often maybe.
A more balanced perspective can be gained by studying the long history of 'friendly' fire here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fr..._incidents

PS - There will be inevitable omissions and biases in above list. One glaring politically motivated example relates to the so-called 'mistaken' ff involving USS Liberty incident of 1967. Not a single surviving member of that unfortunately intentionally targeted for destruction crew agreed with the absurd premise of 'friendly fire'. Try false flag - a different ff.

To be honest the images don't look the same as blocks of flats literally flattened by artillery. You wouldn't have hanging segments of roofing if the building had been hit by a rocket/bomb, in fact I'd be surprised if any of the walls would of still been standing.

It's suggested that "75 wounded prisoners" exist, therefore thats potentially up to 75 accounts of what happened (on top of external observers and guards)

Social media has been filled with footage of rockets being fired, explosions hitting etc. So where are the ones for the prison or the area around the prison?

Did a riot occur while they attempted a breakout (It is the prerogative of prisoners of war to attempt to escape where possible and if failing that at least keep as many of the enemy preoccupied with whatever actions they can occupy them with). I can't imagine Russians of the fake country that it happened in would humanely stop prisoners rebelling against execution sentences, they would of more likely thrown in posionous gas grenades or shot them and then burnt the location to cover it up.

There are many avenues to use to investigate what the actual truth is.
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RainbowUnicorn Offline
i think the Russians deliberately set the jail on fire & then left them in there while the fire took hold.

i think the russians were torturing prisoners by pouring petrol over them and the petrol caught fire
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