Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Russian Ukraine Invasion

RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jun 29, 2022 06:05 PM)Yazata Wrote: The UK Defense ministry seems to think that it's possible that the missile attack on the shopping mall mall was actually intended to strike a nearby infrastructure target. They note that Russian long-range strikes are often notoriously inaccurate and result in civilian casualties.

They say, "Russia's shortage of more modern precision strike weapons and the professional shortcomings of their targeting planners will highly likely result in further civilian casualties."

targeting a civilian machine shop situated right beside one of the busiest shopping malls during its busiest time

ineptness combined with lack of care
does that equal "indiscriminate"


hopefully Belarus will sabotage Russian military
i think Russia is pushing hard to use belarussians as cannon fodder & i think Ukraine has to start considering targets in Belarus



https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hw2D4_v0ihg
Reply
Yazata Offline
Day 126 Summary. It looks the only really significant fighting today was in the city of Lysychansk and the Russians are concentrating all of their efforts in that one place.

https://militaryland.net/ukraine/invasio...6-summary/

Reports are that the Russians have entered the southern outskirts of Lysychansk, near a large oil refinery. They are also making small but significant advances to the west of the city, threatening the last roads in and out.

Video by British TV journalists reporting from inside Lysychansk (no maps are shown). From the tone of the report, the Ukrainian soldiers may indeed be evacuating the city and falling back to more defensible positions. Additional Ukrainian soldiers are still going in, but I get the impression that they might be a covering force to hold the Russians back allowing their comrades to leave. (Executing a retreat under fire is a famously difficult military task.)


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Ibdo5msrqbw
Reply
RainbowUnicorn Offline

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ZYRLiMubL8A

The ruscist flew first combat sortie on June 14, and already on the 17th he was taken prisoner. Now he is telling the SSU how he dropped bombs on Ukraine. He tries to justify himself and says that it was only a matter of ‘striking at strongholds, sites with concentration of enemy forces and manpower.’ However, when he saw the results of russia’s strikes on Ukrainian settlements on the video, the occupier’s self-confidence waned and he ‘suddenly’ realized that this was ‘not the right war, not a necessary war.’ The pilot flew 1-2 combat sorties a day. He admits that, apart from him, there are other mercenaries, not russian army pilots, who fly russian fighter jets worth over USD 10 mln. Mercenaries receive a wage of RUB 200,000 a month and additional bonuses for quantity and ‘effectiveness’ of sorties. The main purpose of stay in Ukraine, according to the pilot, was ‘assisting the republics of Donbas’, while his combat sorties were ‘specific tasks.’ Well, now he will tell the SSU Military Counterintelligence in detail about those ‘specific tasks.’
Reply
Yazata Offline
The Russians claim to have crossed the Siverskyi Donets river and taken Pryvillia north of Lysychansk. The claim appears plausible and speculation is that Ukrainian soldiers had already withdrawn from Pryvillia as part of their general withdrawl from Lysychansk. Road connections to Lysychansk appear increasingly doubtful and the time is coming when the only way in or out will be by driving across open farmland. But Ukrainian resistance continues and Russians have made only incremental progress near the Lysychansk oil refinery. A small band of defenders holding off the main force of the whole Russian army! (Ukrainian legend is being made here, like at Azovstal.) Of course the Russians may be intentionally holding back figuring, 'Why get ourselves killed today when the Ukrainians will be gone in a couple of days?'

And after intense Ukrainian navy missile strikes, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry's Operations Command South reports the Russians have evacuated Snake Island. Verified by Russian Defense Ministry.

Ukraine defense photo of Snake Island


[Image: FWfMP2wXkAcU_Uu?format=jpg&name=900x900]
[Image: FWfMP2wXkAcU_Uu?format=jpg&name=900x900]

Reply
C C Offline
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Perhaps the missiles had St. Patrick depicted on them, as an additional enchantment for purging Snake Island of its newer, invasive species of serpents.
Reply
RainbowUnicorn Offline
you tube video shows ukrainians using the new mobile artillery from the EU to strike snake island
the mobile artillery has a range of nearly 40 kilometers.


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/5Es8mjqm-dE

Quote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61992491

We've grown accustomed to this: Russia putting out a version of events that is wildly different from that presented by Ukraine or by Western governments.
Moscow wants us to believe that there was no Russian retreat from Snake Island.
The statement issued by the Russian Defence Ministry claims that Russian troops there had simply completed "assigned tasks" and left. It also called the departure "a goodwill gesture", to show that Russia wasn't hampering food exports from Ukraine.

Considering the strategic importance of Snake Island, which has been fought over for months, and considering, too, the lack of "goodwill gestures" by the Russian armed forces in Ukraine since the invasion, this version of events will convince few outside Russia.
Then again, this may be directed more at a domestic audience. The Kremlin wants the Russian public to believe that:
  • In this conflict, the Russians are the good guys
  • The Kremlin's so-called "Special Military Operation" in Ukraine is going according to plan.


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/cQiT2DMxHQs
Reply
Reply
Reply
Reply
Kornee Offline
The following comprehensive overview of the current conflict's origins, progress, and actual background, is best read in full. I start with just past the ending:

Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR. Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L’affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

https://www.thepostil.com/the-military-s...e-ukraine/

And if you actually think the sanctions, sanctions, and more sanctions heaped on Russia and allies is just owing to righteous outrage, here's some food for thought:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rand-corp-...ia/5678456

Going back to the issue of Kremenchuk mall incident, here's one perspective blending with above one:
https://ussanews.com/2022/06/29/question...n-ukraine/
And another:
https://covertactionmagazine.com/2022/07...n-ukraine/

Lastly, if as Russian military insist the nearby machinery manufacture/repair complex was being used as a storage/readiness depot for NATO supplied weaponry, that made it a legitimate military target.
That it was so close to a claimed crowded mall implies Zelensky regime was in effect intentionally using the latter as a human shield to protect their munitions assets.
And maybe actually counting on collateral damage to then be used as atrocity propaganda. 'The end justifies the means' thinking.
Reply




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)