Men are just as emotional as women + Can lucid dreaming help us understand conscio...

[confused2]

I am Mrs C2's second husband. I suspect the fist marriage was abusive - I've never enquired but that is what I suspect. I'm far from the nicest guy you might meet but she knew the signs and kind of forced me to become much nicer. If I hadn't loved her [Zadok the priest still looping] it could easily have been another toxic relationship. After nearly 40 years I guess I've been (mostly) ok. She'd been wonderful. The girl that became Mrs C2 wasn't a complete stranger - she had power before we even met  - without that things [edit "might not" replaced by..] probably would not have turned out so well.

[C C]

I am Mrs C2's second husband. I suspect the fist marriage was abusive - I've never enquired but that is what I suspect. I'm far from the nicest guy you might meet but she knew the signs and kind of forced me to become much nicer. If I hadn't loved her [Zadok the priest still looping] it could easily have been another toxic relationship. After nearly 40 years I guess I've been (mostly) ok. She'd been wonderful. The girl that became Mrs C2 wasn't a complete stranger - she had power before we even met - without that things [edit "might not" replaced by..] probably would not have turned out so well.

Peeping behind the music itself:

Zadok: "He was the High Priest of Israel during the reigns of David and Solomon. [...] The prophet Ezekiel extols, in the book attributed to him, the sons of Zadok as staunch opponents of paganism during the era of pagan worship, and indicates their birthright to unique duties and privileges in the future temple."

Well, at least the local community won't have to worry about any offspring from the C2 household keeping the Wiccans, the Knights Templar residue (Baphomet), heathen druids, and so forth in check.

(Yeah, yeah, I probably was wishing that it was a corruption of Zardoz -- maybe would have been more tantalizing.)

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With respect to other topic bits of conversation elsewhere in the thread...

Western incels (sans the violent, insane ones) sometimes seem like those who hate being potentially slotted as the equivalent of Japanese herbivore men. And thus, to avoid self-loathing, flail about in vocally spastic ways so to appear mean -- to garner a semblance of primitive masculinity via spiteful speech or behavior.

The manosphere as a whole, OTOH, is apparently populated by a wide variety of male species. Including those with families (i.e., actually have a woman, even kids) who fit a classic mold of domestic patriarch -- some of which probably aren't monsters beyond wanting to be top dog. But accordingly can't refrain from voicing their dogma and motivated interpretations of the current world online.

We've all encountered people who "truly" fit the stereotypes disparaged, ridiculed, and marketed by extremist propaganda (from right and left movements). Though for many of them that's surely not their personality template 100% of the time, as well as from youth to death. Not everyone they interact with interprets them as _X_ or has engaged with that side of them.

But the reality engineering of a movement is, of course, exaggerating those examples as the majority -- abstracting a sweeping generalization about a population group from the few.

Exceptions are when a radical orientation or authoritarian culture does administratively dominate a population group or entire country. Where Citizen Average or Neighborhood Denizen has been pervasively conditioned to be _X_, and receives social or political consequences if not conforming to that mandated human model.

In some cases, a revolutionist (left) or fundamentalist (right) organization may contend in its literature and circuit promotions that it is not issuing sweeping, universal caricatures about a segment of people. That such is disinformation by their opponents. That it only targets legit, specific instances, exploitive agendas, etc. But usually, in actual practice or in effect over a period of time, that's just not the case. (Or there must be a helluva lot of rogues not following the dictates of the beliefs or leadership.)

[Secular Sanity]

Further evidence comes from the alkaloid galantamine, which can be used to induce lucid dreams.

I take a medication called Olanzapine that is known to induce strange dreams. 

For what, if you don't mind my asking?

[Yazata]

Men are just as emotional as women? That makes me want to cry.

[Syne]

I wonder if it's mainly a social construct that men tend to feel ''weak'' if they express emotions, like sadness, or dare to appear vulnerable. But, there's something about a strong man who shows me that side once in a while, that is endearing. Anger is empowering for men, but it's looked at in a negative way for women, that is true. Unfortunately, a lot of women mistake anger in men towards them as masculinity. Men who abuse women for example, sleep with tons of women and discard them, etc is seen by many women as sexy and ''tough.'' There's a whole host of reasons behind that mindset that I don't feel like going into, but it's a mindset that is prevalent in our culture.

The sad truth is if we're being honest, many women say they'd like vulnerable men who share their emotions, but when it actually happens, they get turned off by it.

So, what is driving that ''reaction,'' biology or society's pressures and constructions?

Like all other mating behavior, it's evolutionary psychology. You might appreciate that side of a man every "once in a while" in a committed relationship, but seeing it in potential suitors gives you no idea how "once in a while" it actually is. You have to have a track record of a man being strong before that kind of vulnerability signals trust rather than weakness. Vulnerability is only valuable relative to actual strength in a man. There are tons of low-value losers that are vulnerable. Anger is like any weapon. When a man is strong enough to use it and strong enough to refrain from using it (rather than being compelled to out of a defensive fear or insecurity), anger can be utilized to protect others. Abusers and men who sleep with many women are not the same thing. Abusers are insecure, but men with many sexual options just have the same luxury that many women do, being able to get laid whenever they want, with only as much investment as they want. And even for men, sometimes you have to kiss a lot of frogs before finding a high-value woman. Both high-value men and women are in increasingly short supply.

But, many women have issues that stem from their fathers, if their fathers were of the abusive, emotionally distant variety. That lends itself to making very poor choices when dating, and developing relationships with men. They tend to be attracted to what they're most familiar with from their childhoods, and if you were raised by a jerk, then you'll likely gravitate to a jerk for a partner. You'd think it'd be the opposite, but it's frequently not.

While there are plenty of "daddy issues," outside of sexual abuse as a child, modern society/culture plays a large role in women's expectations. Once upon a time, women expected to have skills, like cooking, sewing, etc., in order to find a good man. Nowadays single, multiple baby-daddy, over-weight women in their 30s delusionally think they deserve the same high-value man as a fit 20-something with no children. And they think men care one wit about the career they wasted their best years building. But yes, most women continually repeat the exact same mistake in picking what they think are alpha men, never realizing that it's their unrealistic expectations leading them astray. That would require them to take some responsibility for their own choices.

[Magical Realist]

Further evidence comes from the alkaloid galantamine, which can be used to induce lucid dreams.

I take a medication called Olanzapine that is known to induce strange dreams. 

For what, if you don't mind my asking?

Voices and insomnia..

[C C]

Further evidence comes from the alkaloid galantamine, which can be used to induce lucid dreams.

I take a medication called Olanzapine that is known to induce strange dreams. My dreams since taking it are the most spectacular and enjoyable ones I've ever had. The plots are as intricate and involved as movies, with many surrealistic twists scattered here and there. Sometimes I have as many as 3 distinct dreams a night. I predict a time when dreaming drugs will be sold on the open market.

The cinematic dream effect apparently isn't unique, either. The person below even claims to be able to resume the same "movie" later. Not sure that I've ever experienced that, though I have had older dreams become parts of the memory recollections of a new avatar.

Good thing I don't take any prescriptions, especially ones that affect the brain. I'd probably launch so far into the oneirosphere that I'd never wake up to this world again. Perilous enough without any help.

https://www.psychforums.com/medication-a...12503.html

Gmdaly27: Hi all. I have a question about Olanzapine. I've been on it now for about 4 months, only at night and only 10-20mg as required. But since I've started it my sleep duration seems to be improving. However, I seem to be having very vivid dreams, and even more strangely when I wake up I can sometimes put myself back to sleep into the same dream. This can happen for hours with multiple times of waking and sometimes even getting up.

These dreams started off being somewhat scary, a lot of violence. Now they still often involve me being hurt but they are much more like I just woke up from watching a movie, and I was in it.

[...] If anyone is also on olanzapine and experiencing similar side effects, I would love to hear from you. Thank you.

[Secular Sanity]

Further evidence comes from the alkaloid galantamine, which can be used to induce lucid dreams.

I take a medication called Olanzapine that is known to induce strange dreams. 

For what, if you don't mind my asking?

Voices and insomnia..

Does it help with your social anxiety at all?

[Magical Realist]

Further evidence comes from the alkaloid galantamine, which can be used to induce lucid dreams.

I take a medication called Olanzapine that is known to induce strange dreams. 

For what, if you don't mind my asking?

Voices and insomnia..

Does it help with your social anxiety at all?

Yes..it makes me more relaxed.

[Magical Realist]

Good thing I don't take any prescriptions, especially ones that affect the brain. I'd probably launch so far into the oneirosphere that I'd never wake up to this world again. Perilous enough without any help.

My oneirosphere was become so familiar to me that it has its own surrealistic geography with cities and rural areas. Many times I return to the same place, like a huge library/coffee house in some city like Seattle, a vast warehouse full of military personel, or a beachside town with it's own secret occult church. I have given up imputing much of any meaning to my dreams. I think they are just the soul spreading it's iridescent wings and practicing for its final glide into the sparkling beyond.