Article  Stop wasting taxpayer money on UFOs? (government justification metrics)

(Sep 23, 2026 12:29 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Why shouldn't we spend money to build a larger military, for national security?
Why shouldn't we spend more money on deportations, for national security?
Why shouldn't we spend more money stopping abortions, for a sustainable population?

We do. It's all included in the Federal govt's roughly 5 trillion dollars of taxpayer money. Welcome to our Federalist Republic.

But those are all things most Democrats would like to spend less on. And no, we don't spend any federal money to stop abortions.

And they actually address real issues, not unknowns we don't have any evidence of actually being threats.

Quote:And they actually address real issues, not unknowns we don't have any evidence of actually being threats.

Any aerial flying object that is detected on radar or seen to be flying in an airspace is an automatic threat. In this age of anti-terrorist vigilance, you should know this.

(Sep 23, 2026 01:27 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:And they actually address real issues, not unknowns we don't have any evidence of actually being threats.

Any aerial flying object that is detected on radar or seen to be flying in an airspace is an automatic threat. In this age of anti-terrorist vigilance, you should know this.

Where did one of these things attack anything? @_@

Civilian drones, balloons, birds, etc. are not threats. So until you can show that one of your UAPs has been a threat, you're fearmongering over nothing. Relax.

"Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) in and around restricted U.S. airspace pose a serious concern for national security and flight safety.

The Airspace Threat

Military Incursions: UAPs and unauthorized drones frequently appear near sensitive U.S. military installations and operations areas, creating potential collision risks and testing defense vulnerabilities.

Performance Capabilities: Some military pilot reports describe objects exhibiting extreme speeds, unusual maneuverability, or abrupt flight paths that defy easy explanation.

Classification Barriers: Government watchdogs and congressional task forces have repeatedly noted that a lack of coordinated tracking, delayed data-sharing, and strict over-classification hinder effective threat mitigation.

Government and Congressional Action

AARO Oversight: The Department of Defense established the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate these events, though lawmakers continue to push for deeper transparency and the declassification of related records.

Recent Declassifications: The administration directed defense agencies to begin identifying and releasing files related to UAP sightings, leading to multiple public record disclosures."
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"Two Navy veterans who claim to have seen unidentified aerial phenomena, better known as UFOs, joined a Pentagon whistleblower Wednesday to warn Congress that the sightings threaten national security and are being kept secret.

Ryan Graves, a former Navy F-18 pilot, and David Fravor, a retired Navy commander, described their encounters with strange, flying objects at a crowded hearing before the House Oversight Committee, which is leading a push by lawmakers to destigmatize reporting on such incidents and increase government transparency about potential alien life.

“As we convene here, UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly underreported. These sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine,” Graves said. “Parts of our government are more aware about UAP than they let on, but excessive classification processes keep crucial information hidden.”

Graves said he first became aware of UAPs in 2014, after upgraded jet radar systems used by pilots stationed at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach, Va., began detecting unknown objects. A pilot soon saw one in person, observing a floating “dark gray cube inside of a clear sphere” during a training mission about 10 miles off the Atlantic coast, Graves said.

There was no official acknowledgement of the incident, and it was never investigated, he said.

“If everyone could see the sensor and video data I witnessed, our national conversation would change,” Graves said. “If UAP are foreign drones, it is an urgent national security problem. If it is something else, it is an issue for science. In either case, unidentified objects are a concern for flight safety.”---- https://www.legion.org/information-cente...ng-nationa

No attack, huh? 9_9

(Sep 23, 2026 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote: No attack, huh? 9_9

A UAP doesn't have to attack to be a threat to aircraft. It just has to be flying around in their airspace.

(Sep 23, 2026 01:39 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

(Sep 23, 2026 01:37 AM)Syne Wrote: No attack, huh? 9_9

A UAP doesn't have to attack to be a threat to aircraft. It just has to be flying around in their airspace.

Wait, so you think we run the risk of an air collision? With technology supposedly far in advance of our own?

9_9

Quote:Wait, so you think we run the risk of an air collision? With technology supposedly far in advance of our own?

You can't be this stupid. Let's go over this again:

"Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) in and around restricted U.S. airspace pose a serious concern for national security and flight safety.

The Airspace Threat

Military Incursions: UAPs and unauthorized drones frequently appear near sensitive U.S. military installations and operations areas, creating potential collision risks and testing defense vulnerabilities.

Performance Capabilities: Some military pilot reports describe objects exhibiting extreme speeds, unusual maneuverability, or abrupt flight paths that defy easy explanation.

Classification Barriers: Government watchdogs and congressional task forces have repeatedly noted that a lack of coordinated tracking, delayed data-sharing, and strict over-classification hinder effective threat mitigation.

Government and Congressional Action

AARO Oversight: The Department of Defense established the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate these events, though lawmakers continue to push for deeper transparency and the declassification of related records.

Recent Declassifications: The administration directed defense agencies to begin identifying and releasing files related to UAP sightings, leading to multiple public record disclosures."
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"Two Navy veterans who claim to have seen unidentified aerial phenomena, better known as UFOs, joined a Pentagon whistleblower Wednesday to warn Congress that the sightings threaten national security and are being kept secret.

Ryan Graves, a former Navy F-18 pilot, and David Fravor, a retired Navy commander, described their encounters with strange, flying objects at a crowded hearing before the House Oversight Committee, which is leading a push by lawmakers to destigmatize reporting on such incidents and increase government transparency about potential alien life.

“As we convene here, UAP are in our airspace, but they are grossly underreported. These sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine,” Graves said. “Parts of our government are more aware about UAP than they let on, but excessive classification processes keep crucial information hidden.”

Graves said he first became aware of UAPs in 2014, after upgraded jet radar systems used by pilots stationed at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach, Va., began detecting unknown objects. A pilot soon saw one in person, observing a floating “dark gray cube inside of a clear sphere” during a training mission about 10 miles off the Atlantic coast, Graves said.

There was no official acknowledgement of the incident, and it was never investigated, he said.

“If everyone could see the sensor and video data I witnessed, our national conversation would change,” Graves said. “If UAP are foreign drones, it is an urgent national security problem. If it is something else, it is an issue for science. In either case, unidentified objects are a concern for flight safety.”---- https://www.legion.org/information-cente...ng-nationa

(Sep 23, 2026 02:49 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Wait, so you think we run the risk of an air collision? With technology supposedly far in advance of our own?

UAPs and unauthorized drones frequently appear near sensitive U.S. military installations and operations areas, creating potential collision risks and testing defense vulnerabilities.

Apparently you do. 9_9

Need me to post it a third time?