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C C
Jun 3, 2026 12:39 AM
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Granted, there are these Orwellian "thought and speech control" polices in effect now that could have been responsible for officers believing Digwa and ignoring Nowak's wounds. And informal noises about two-tier policing. But the system is still ironically also accused of institutional racism of the traditional ilk. And in the end, Digwa was convicted, whereas George Zimmerman walked in the US (the historical figure he might invertedly be compared to). At any rate, it's kind of wild that the Union Jack is regarded as a hate symbol at populist rallies. The signaling icon of rebellious proletariat solidarity and activism, which the left deems to be the source of bigotry (regardless of whatever they're protesting).
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Murder of Henry Nowak: On 3 December 2025, Henry Nowak, an 18‑year‑old British university student, was murdered by Vickrum Digwa in Southampton, England. Digwa, a 23-year-old British Sikh man, cut and stabbed Nowak a total of five times with a dagger.
When police officers from Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary arrived, Digwa accused Nowak of racism, and officers handcuffed Nowak. Police body‑worn camera footage showed Nowak repeatedly telling officers that he had been stabbed and pleading for help. He died shortly after being handcuffed.
Shortly before the stabbing, Nowak had filmed Digwa walking away from him during a verbal altercation. Digwa maintained that he acted in self-defence after Nowak continued pursuing him, made racist remarks, and punched him. Prosecutors argued that these allegations were baseless and fabricated in an attempt to justify the stabbing.
The jury convicted Digwa of murder on 28 May 2026. Digwa's mother, Kiran Kaur, was found guilty of assisting an offender. The judge rejected Digwa's accusations that Nowak had physically or racially abused him. Digwa received a life sentence with a minimum term of 21 years. The police response to the crime, recorded on body‑worn cameras, was referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct... ( MORE - details)
Outrage over body cam footage plus Starmer ... https://youtu.be/O4ANvSvcoX4
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/O4ANvSvcoX4
Farage Responds to Henry Nowak's Murder: The Henry Novak case has not had the coverage and publicity that it deserves. A young man is stabbed five times in the street. The police are called. The assailant, the man who's committed the stabbing, says Mr. Novak made racist comments.
As a result of that, the police don't believe that he's been stabbed. Don't check that he's been stabbed. put him in handcuffs and he dies lying on the ground.
Does this remind you of the George Floyd case just a few years ago that happened in the Midwest of America? Within 24 hours of that, because Floyd was black, we had statues being defaced in Parliament Square. Uproar of the most extraordinary kind. [...] Hell, it's almost as if because he's white and he was accused of racism that nobody cares...
The body cam footage itself ... https://youtu.be/Azp_arVHhp8
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Azp_arVHhp8
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Zinjanthropos
Jun 3, 2026 10:31 AM
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Not a lot of non-whites in that crowd. Really shouldn’t matter, right? A regular everyday murder. Isn’t that something the hate laws are all about? No special distinction of race, gender, color, culture, customs, country of origin, etc. Just plain ordinary people murdering other plain ordinary people lawfully but unlawfully at same time.
Confusing for law enforcement. Prevent one law from being broken before realizing there was a law broken. Seemed as if murder took a back seat to potential hate crime. Priorities have changed for police, diffuse the hate before tending to a victim. Police can’t win. In this case they pissed off whites but rest assured non whites will get their chance to reciprocate.
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confused2
Jun 3, 2026 11:32 AM
Digwa's trial lasted three weeks. Police arriving at a scene have to work out what's happened in real time and they have no choice but to act on the information given by the most plausible witness .. in this case Digwa (having planned the attack) was more plausible than Nowak who was probably distracted by his (fatal) injuries. After George Floyd everyone says "I can't breath" whether true or not .. to the point where it is exactly the thing to NOT say if you want to be believed and need help.
My take is that the police were fooled by a plausible liar at the (fatal) expense of an implausible person telling the truth. The problem with plausible liars is that they are actually plausible .. with the police effectively on trial .. you have to ask if you could have known which was telling the truth.
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geordief
Jun 3, 2026 01:30 PM
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(Jun 3, 2026 11:32 AM)confused2 Wrote: Digwa's trial lasted three weeks. Police arriving at a scene have to work out what's happened in real time and they have no choice but to act on the information given by the most plausible witness .. in this case Digwa (having planned the attack) was more plausible than Nowak who was probably distracted by his (fatal) injuries. After George Floyd everyone says "I can't breath" whether true or not .. to the point where it is exactly the thing to NOT say if you want to be believed and need help.
My take is that the police were fooled by a plausible liar at the (fatal) expense of an implausible person telling the truth. The problem with plausible liars is that they are actually plausible .. with the police effectively on trial .. you have to ask if you could have known which was telling the truth.
Why did Digwa kill Dowak? Was it premeditated or was there an altercation of any kind?
Is Digwa mentally ill.
Or is it the police response that is on trial and the general policy I have seen where they aim for an equality of outcomes rather than necessarily an equality of treatment?
Seems quite a hard circle to square..
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Syne
Jun 3, 2026 05:21 PM
If someone says they've been stabbed, it should be a no-brainer to check them for injuries.... instead of patronizing them and ignoring their claim. Fastest way to tell who's lying. Even just on the basis of liability, once you've taken someone into your custody (arrested/detained).
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C C
Jun 3, 2026 07:46 PM
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It probably didn't help that Nowak might have appeared drunk to police, even though it wasn't at an officially inebriated level. The alcohol likely contributed to him singing and muttering stuff to Digwa that might seem nonsensical without a context for it.
He had been drinking at the Hobbit Pub and was under the drink-drive limit. Nowak then began filming Vickrum Digwa. Video recovered from Nowak's phone captured him saying "Hello car" and singing to himself before yawning, while Digwa walked away from him. Nowak continued: "Innit bad man, what bad man. You're a bad man, say you're a bad man, go on." Digwa, still walking away in the Snapchat video, replied: "I am a bad man." Digwa inflicted five "stab wounds or cuts" on Nowak, with the 21-centimetre (8.3 in) Sikh ceremonial knife he was carrying, including a fatal wound to the chest and additional wounds to his legs.
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confused2
Jun 4, 2026 12:35 AM
It isn't a criticism .. just an observation. I thought the police were just hardened .. seen it all before .. not really responding to what was actually in front of them. They weren't brutal or even unkind .. just not very interested. I can understand it. Even if you start with optimism .. a few years of being insulted and spat on is going to take that away.
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C C
Jun 4, 2026 10:20 PM
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Jacob Rees Mogg (GBNews)
https://youtu.be/c68lxlURpTc
VIDEO EXCERPT: None of this was going on in the video that you have seen. And a dying man was treated appallingly. And why was he treated appallingly? Because he was white. This is a crime that has its origins, I'm afraid, in racism and in a view that people who have protected characteristics must be believed, whilst those who don't must not. It comes from a whole culture of DEI assuming that people who are white have automatic critical race theory prejudices and are therefore likely to be guilty of racism whether they have been or not. It's been inculcated in the police by things like the Macpherson Report which say that the institutions are racist...
[...] And joining me to discuss this is the Shadow Attorney General, Lord Wolfson.
[...] But coming back to your question, the central proposition surely is straightforward. It's equality under the law. We shouldn't be having to restate this in 2026. But sometimes the basic principles do need restating. And that means everybody is equal under the law. We're equal in the eyes of the police. We ought to be equal in the criminal justice system. And we ought to be equal when it comes to sentencing as well.
Where do you think it started to go wrong? I mean, I worry that the Equality Act that creates protected characteristics automatically just by that definition give some people more rights than others and therefore encourages this type of behavior. But you can also go back to the Macpherson Report which said the Metropolitan Police was institutionally racist, which pushed the police in a way to be racist in another direction.
I think there's a combination of factors. The police have a difficult job to do. I think one of the real problems we have is that as a society we have not been sufficiently muscular in standing up for and underlining those basic principles of equality before the law...
[...] But does the law leave us equal under the law anymore, which ... It's basically what Magna Carter is about. But we've passed laws that have changed that and have made some more equal than others.
I wouldn't say it makes some more equal than others. I think often it's not actually the law that's at fault. I think often it's the guidance. It's the way institutions behave. It's the way the people are sometimes afraid to speak out...
https://youtu.be/c68lxlURpTc
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/c68lxlURpTc
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confused2
Jun 5, 2026 12:07 AM
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Edit..
Report is from UK news source The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/j...-far-right
Quote:On the night of 3 December 2025, on the streets of Southampton, Vickrum Digwa stabbed Henry five times with a 21cm ceremonial dagger. Digwa’s brother called 999, claiming Digwa had been the victim of an assault. When police arrived, Digwa repeated the lie, claiming Henry had grabbed his turban and called him a racial slur. [all very plausible .. Henry being apparently too drunk to stand when the police arrived]
At this stage the killer might have been hoping the wounds he had inflicted weren't serious and the victim would walk away .. or there is simply no logic to it .. his first kill and he's just doing what his brother tells him to do.
Quote:“The charge, pushed by the far right and their helpers, is that the police treated a claim of racism more seriously than the vicious attack suffered by Henry Nowak,” Vikram [the reporter] says. But, while the police watchdog inquiry is ongoing, “There are no facts to support that, there are facts to support a simpler explanation, which is still disturbing, but of little obvious help to the far right.”
Why didn’t police realise at first Henry had been stabbed?
The body cam footage suggests it took several minutes for the police to realise Henry had been stabbed. As the judge explains in his sentencing remarks: “It was dark and Henry was wearing a dark top. The entry damage caused by the knife through it, would not have been obvious … Henry was complaining that he had been stabbed and was struggling to breathe but that would not have necessarily told the officers how serious the situation had become … sometimes, someone arrested and handcuffed will [of course .. how often do you have to see it?] feign injury in the hope they may be released.”
According to the trial pathologist, Henry’s fatal injury caused catastrophic internal bleeding, so not the evident blood loss that would immediately indicate a stab wound to officers.
But after the video that was made public ends, Vikram [the reporter] says, the police do realise that Henry’s situation is life-threatening. They uncuff him and administer CPR. As the court heard: no amount of intervention, no matter how quickly he received it, could have saved Henry’s life.
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C C
Jun 5, 2026 01:23 AM
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(Jun 5, 2026 12:07 AM)confused2 Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/j...-far-right [...] According to the trial pathologist, Henry’s fatal injury caused catastrophic internal bleeding, so not the evident blood loss that would immediately indicate a stab wound to officers. [...] As the court heard: no amount of intervention, no matter how quickly he received it, could have saved Henry’s life.
In the video, Nowak tells them that he's been stabbed, and they disbelieve him (after all, he's been branded a ___ing racist white man): "Don't think you have, mate." And handcuff him.
What's happened to you?
I've been stabbed.
You've been stabbed. Whereabouts?
Don't think you have, mate.
That's what the outrage pivots on: the mistreatment, not the fact that he would have died anyway (hopeless outcome). There's no getting around that if things were swapped -- where Digwa was white and Nowak was instead the one with "protected characteristics", the legacy media would instead be tearing into the police instead of making excuses (or at least in the US, as has been demonstrated countless times).
There are nationally ignored cases of police abuse in the US, too (involving all identities), but they receive no national attention because law enforcement injustices against privileged white people (either real or projected) are uninteresting and even deemed racist to carry on about in the mainstream news (even poor whites are still bigoted, hegemonic elites). It's also about historical balance -- it may take two or more centuries more of various types of positive discrimination to make up for the horrors committed against Native Americans and Blacks prior to the late 20th-century.
It's only because the UK has militant proles like these demonstrating that it becomes a different scenario. They presumably inherited their activism and street outrage tendencies from their families historically voting for Labour and belonging to other left-wing (non-party) organizations, and held on to that protest (and hoodlum?) tradition after becoming disillusioned and defecting to populism activity, etc.
In contrast, the contemporary, non-union American blue-collar and rural working class usually doesn't care squat about protests -- for them, it's an abhorrent left political trait. That's probably why this UK incident is so fascinating or freakish, that white people over there (the proles, anyway) actually care enough about one of their own to halfway riot. ( Ruby Ridge standoff incidents seem kind of passée now and even those never triggered inverted George Floyd scale reaction and condemnation, and involved the ATF and US Marshalls fiascos rather than ordinary police.)
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