DAVE: I'm a real student of conservative thought. Like I love all that. I've read every Pat Buchanan book. [...] But could the President not, you know, just not be the most vulgar, horrible human being on the planet? That seems to be a reasonable request. And it's sad. It's sad watching this happen.
Oh, totally [...] Well, actually, before we leave, there was a lot of chatter last week. We were talking about Alex Jones earlier. Some people, Alex was one of them, calling for a potential 25th amendment, saying Trump is losing it.
Again, do I think there's something that seems to have escalated because we're now at war, and maybe he's feeling extra defensive and desperate of his image? Probably.
Do you think this is a 25th Amendment situation where his grasp on reality is slipping? Again, I look at this and it's not surprising to me. It doesn't shock me. I think it's really bad. And it does seem like it's on another level. But it doesn't seem to me like he's going insane. [...] I feel like he's always been on this level of crazy.
DAVE: I don't know. This is just speculation. I don't know exactly what's happened, but it does feel like something is different. A switch has been flipped...
Trump deletes viral “Jesus” post and says it was about being a doctor, with Dave Smith ... https://youtu.be/jSexpKBH3iA
Quote:No, you are out of touch. You've spent decades deriding Christians from your admittedly poor experience as one..
When did I ever admit a poor experience of Christianity? In fact I have always claimed just the opposite--an experience so full and authentic it allowed be to see thru all the bullshit it really was.
Oh, and let's not half-quote yourself here:
Quote:You've spent decades deriding Christians from your admittedly poor experience as one, and that largely as a child, who didn't understand Biblical theology.
That was your claim liar. And I refuted it.
Quote:Both C. S. Lewis and G. K. Chesterton were lay theologians (not trained in theology). They were primarily authors and apologists. You probably mostly read their fiction works and think you've studied theology.
A theologian is a theologian. And let's see..as regard their works: The Problem of Pain? Mere Christianity? The Screwtape Letters? Orthodoxy? The Everlasting Man? Ring a bell? Of course not because your dumbass has never cracked a theological treatise in your life.
Quote:Have you ever studied Augustine, Aquinas, Anslem, etc.?
You mean the Catholic saints? Nope..I was never Catholic.
Now let's revisit that crucial question you totally avoided:
Your abysmal ignorance about what Christians think and feel is telling. How many years did YOU devote to being a true Christian? Be specific now..
DAVE: I'm a real student of conservative thought. Like I love all that. I've read every Pat Buchanan book. [...] But could the President not, you know, just not be the most vulgar, horrible human being on the planet? That seems to be a reasonable request. And it's sad. It's sad watching this happen.
Oh, totally...
[...] Well, actually, before we leave, there was a lot of chatter last week. We were talking about Alex Jones earlier. Some people, Alex was one of them, calling for a potential 25th amendment, saying Trump is losing it.
Again, do I think there's something that seems to have escalated because we're now at war, and maybe he's feeling extra defensive and desperate of his image? Probably.
Do you think this is a 25th Amendment situation where his grasp on reality is slipping? Again, I look at this and it's not surprising to me. It doesn't shock me. I think it's really bad. And it does seem like it's on another level. But it doesn't seem to me like he's going insane. [...] I feel like he's always been on this level of crazy.
DAVE: I don't know. This is just speculation. I don't know exactly what's happened, but it does feel like something is different. A switch has been flipped...
Trump deletes viral “Jesus” post and says it was about being a doctor, with Dave Smith ... https://youtu.be/jSexpKBH3iA
Dave Smith is a TDS borderline antisemite (yes, Jews can be antisemitic) who allies with the openly antisemitic Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, etc.. 9_9
(Apr 15, 2026 11:19 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:No, you are out of touch. You've spent decades deriding Christians from your admittedly poor experience as one..
When did I ever admit a poor experience of Christianity? In fact I have always claimed just the opposite--an experience so full and authentic it allowed be to see thru all the bullshit it really was.
If it was so great, you wouldn't think it was bullshit.
So you imagine that everyone who's still a Christian just hasn't studied it enough to know better, huh?
Yeah, you're in touch with Christians. [/sarc] 9_9
Quote:Oh, and let's not half-quote yourself here:
Quote:You've spent decades deriding Christians from your admittedly poor experience as one, and that largely as a child, who didn't understand Biblical theology.
You're the one who keeps half-quoting me. I just added the context. Not that you comprehend it. 9_9
Quote:That was your claim liar. And I refuted it.
I believe you really think so. 9_9
Quote:
Quote:Both C. S. Lewis and G. K. Chesterton were lay theologians (not trained in theology). They were primarily authors and apologists. You probably mostly read their fiction works and think you've studied theology.
A theologian is a theologian. And let's see..as regard their works: The Problem of Pain? Mere Christianity? The Screwtape Letters? Orthodoxy? The Everlasting Man? Ring a bell? Of course not because your dumbass has never cracked a theological treatise in your life.
Yes, and it's funny you STILL included a fiction novel in your list. Had to pad the list, huh? @_@
Quote:
Quote:Have you ever studied Augustine, Aquinas, Anslem, etc.?
You mean the Catholic saints? Nope..I was never Catholic.
No, I mean the some of the foundational thinkers in Christian theology, regardless of sect.
Quote:Now let's revisit that crucial question you totally avoided:
Your abysmal ignorance about what Christians think and feel is telling. How many years did YOU devote to being a true Christian? Be specific now..
I already answered:
(Apr 15, 2026 08:36 PM)Syne Wrote: And you're delusional to think that you know better, about people you don't even identify with, than people who have decades more personal experience, study, and belief.
Doctor? If going that route, he should have augmented it with:
"I get confused about comic book characters. I thought there was a superhero named after Hippocrates, who wears robes like the orignal and has healing powers. But I've been told by those who keep up with the genre that there actually isn't one yet."
Quote:If it was so great, you wouldn't think it was bullshit.
Just like an ex-cult member can authoritatively attack his own cult in which he was a happy and dedicated member. This isn't rocket science moron.
Quote:So you imagine that everyone who's still a Christian just hasn't studied it enough to know better, huh?
Exactly.
Quote:Yeah, you're in touch with Christians
Yep..that's what happens when you are a real Christian for 20 years.
Quote:You're the one who keeps half-quoting me. I just added the context. Not that you comprehend it.
Liar. Here's your half-quote again:
Quote:You've spent decades deriding Christians from your admittedly poor experience as one...
Quote:Yes, and it's funny you STILL included a fiction novel in your list. Had to pad the list, huh?
Makes no difference. I still read the other ones..
Quote:No, I mean the some of the foundational thinkers in Christian theology, regardless of sect.
Catholic theology actually. So how many of those have YOU read? None? That's what I thought.
Quote:I already answered:
And you're delusional to think that you know better, about people you don't even identify with, than people who have decades more personal experience, study, and belief.
LOL That's what I thought. You've devoted zero years being a real Christian and yet you presume to know what millions of other Christians think and believe including me. You're an ignorant piece of Trump-defending shit. Shrivel up and blow away. [Image: Bvi5Xaf.jpg]
Pretty embarrassing when your own President is just an internet troll trying to troll imaginary viewers..
"President Trump on Wednesday posted an AI-generated meme showing Jesus embracing him a day after insisting another image that he shared on social media, which sparked a backlash among the Christian right, was intended to depict him as a doctor — and not Christ.
The new image that Trump posted on Truth Social was a screengrab from X showing him in front of a microphone with Jesus’s arms draped around him and an American flag in the background.
“The Radical Left Lunatics might not like this, but I think it is quite nice!!!” the president wrote."
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(Apr 16, 2026 12:10 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:If it was so great, you wouldn't think it was bullshit.
Just like an ex-cult member can authoritatively attack his own cult in which he was a happy and dedicated member. This isn't rocket science moron.
Quote:So you imagine that everyone who's still a Christian just hasn't studied it enough to know better, huh?
Exactly.
Quote:Yeah, you're in touch with Christians. [/sarc]
Yep..that's what happens when you are a real Christian for 20 years.
People do not leave groups they are completely happy with. You're obviously glossing over how Christians didn't validate your orientation and that hurt your feelings.
That you lack the self-awareness or intellectual honesty to admit it means you're even more out of touch than I thought.
Seems you're on a big delusion of grandeur kick at the moment... imagining you know more than people who have dedicated their lives to the faith for over twice the time you did (and long enough to develop a fully adult brain and remain faithful).
If Lewis and Chesterton were so knowledgeable, why didn't they leave Christianity? @_@
Quote:
Quote:No, I mean the some of the foundational thinkers in Christian theology, regardless of sect.
Catholic theology actually. So how many of those have YOU read? None? That's what I thought.
Thanks for exposing your ignorance.
Quote:
Quote:I already answered:
And you're delusional to think that you know better, about people you don't even identify with, than people who have decades more personal experience, study, and belief.
LOL That's what I thought. You've devoted zero years being a real Christian and yet you presume to know what millions of other Christians think and believe including me.
That's what you think you read, huh? 9_9
"Including you"? Are you now claiming to be a Christian? Because I didn't say anything about what non-Christians do or should think. Just more of your delusions. 9_9
(Apr 16, 2026 02:07 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: YES! This is more like it!
Quote:People do not leave groups they are completely happy with. You're obviously glossing over how Christians didn't validate your orientation and that hurt your feelings.
Nope..had nothing to do with it. It was completely due to waking up to philosophy and science in my college years and seeing Christianity as the soulless death cult it really is. I had no desire to return to its theatrical moanings and groanings to an imaginary despot, and haven't to this day.
Quote:That you lack the self-awareness or intellectual honesty to admit it means you're even more out of touch than I thought.
Admit what? Please enlighten me why I left Christianity all-knowing one. I'm all ears.
Quote:Seems you're on a big delusion of grandeur kick at the moment... imagining you know more than people who have dedicated their lives to the faith for over twice the time you did (and long enough to develop a fully adult brain and remain faithful).
Yeah..I'm so fuck'n grandiose having exposed myself to hundreds of thinkers and books over the years as opposed to living my whole life by just one book of fables and superstitions scribbled by goat herders 3000 years ago. It's called freeing your own mind, something you haven't the slightest clue about.
Quote:If Lewis and Chesterton were so knowledgeable, why didn't they leave Christianity.
Victims of the older times they lived in. There's simply no excuse for remaining deceived by religion in our day and age of the internet and the widespread cultural dissemination of knowledge and ideas and democratic values thruout the world. None at all.
Quote:Are you now claiming to be a Christian? Because I didn't say anything about what non-Christians do or should think. Just more of your delusions.
You were the one claiming I didn't know anything about being a Christian and that I just didn't understand it well enough and that I actually left it because of my sexual orientation all of which are simply false. Try not to spout lies about people when you know nothing about them. Being ignorant is forgivable. But being stupid isn't.
(Apr 16, 2026 04:11 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: It was completely due to waking up to philosophy and science in my college years and seeing Christianity as the soulless death cult it really is. I had no desire to return to its theatrical moanings and groanings to an imaginary despot, and haven't to this day.
That you see God as a despot puts you out of touch with the vast majority of believing Christians.
Quote:
Quote:Seems you're on a big delusion of grandeur kick at the moment... imagining you know more than people who have dedicated their lives to the faith for over twice the time you did (and long enough to develop a fully adult brain and remain faithful).
Yeah..I'm so fuck'n grandiose having exposed myself to hundreds of thinkers and books over the years as opposed to living my whole life by just one book of fables and superstitions scribbled by goat herders 3000 years ago. It's called freeing your own mind, something you haven't the slightest clue about.
You obviously read them as poorly as you read posts here, ignoring what you don't like and misunderstanding the rest.
See, you continue to believe, falsely, that you're the only one here to have read broadly. Hell, just today I proved you didn't know the difference between causal closure and causal completeness. And you just threw a little fit. 9_9
Quote:
Quote:If Lewis and Chesterton were so knowledgeable, why didn't they leave Christianity.
Victims of the older times they lived in. There's simply no excuse for remaining deceived by religion in our day and age of the internet and the widespread cultural dissemination of knowledge and ideas and democratic values thruout the world. None at all.
What about all the modern theologians and apologists? @_@
Quote:
Quote:Are you now claiming to be a Christian? Because I didn't say anything about what non-Christians do or should think. Just more of your delusions.
You were the one claiming I didn't know anything about being a Christian...
No, you're being illiterate again. 9_9
You obviously don't understand Christians. You think you're better and wiser than them, which necessarily means you cannot relate to them on the subject of Christianity.
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