Did Vince Gilligan insert a BASED message in the show PLUR1BUS? (television hobbies)

(Nov 27, 2025 06:17 AM)Syne Wrote: [...] If you think producers for any large studio have absolute creative freedom, you're naive.

One question we might ask is why they didn't require a legit lesbian for the part, similar to Asia Kate Dillon playing the non-binary character Taylor Mason in Billions, or any of the various deaf roles over the decades that Marlee Matlin played.[1] Seehorn is in her 50s now, so it's not the usual "lipstick lesbian" excuse that the higher-up suits (or even show creators themselves at times) go for to appeal to the male porn audience. Ultimately, Gilligan wanted Seehorn in the series because she was a major part of the former BCS team (she was great as Kim Wexler), so that would be a demand that he just wouldn't let up on, even if they had requested authenticity.

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[1] Actors of marginalized population groups arguably should be getting those jobs, just like Black actors being selected for Black characters.

(Nov 27, 2025 03:34 PM)C C Wrote:

(Nov 27, 2025 06:17 AM)Syne Wrote: [...] If you think producers for any large studio have absolute creative freedom, you're naive.

One question we might ask is why they didn't require a legit lesbian for the part, similar to Asia Kate Dillon playing the non-binary character Taylor Mason in Billions, or any of the various deaf roles over the decades that Marlee Matlin played.[1] Seehorn is in her 50s now, so it's not the usual "lipstick lesbian" excuse that the higher-up suits (or even show creators themselves at times) go for to appeal to the male porn audience. Ultimately, Gilligan wanted Seehorn in the series because she was a major part of the former BCS team (she was great as Kim Wexler), so that would be a demand that he just wouldn't let up on, even if they had requested authenticity.

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[1] Actors of marginalized population groups arguably should be getting those jobs, just like Black actors being selected for Black characters.

Only in identitarian Hollywood do they forego acting skills in favor of identity. Deafness is a harder role to act, but plenty of people have done blind, gay, lesbian, etc. convincingly. And the justification of black actors playing black characters breaks down with the plethora of race-swapping of white characters... even those set in historically Anglo-Saxon eras/regions.

So "should" only really applies to historical accuracy. You can't say there are any marginalized populations in Hollywood when they are largely over-represented relative to their share of the general population.

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JON DEL ARROZ
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VIDEO EXCERPTS (episode five): For whatever reason, I can't put down Apple TV's Pluribus. It's like appointment TV ... I should hate every element of it. ... But at the same time, it's so well done. It's pretty undeniable.

And Vince Gilligan and his team have really created such an interesting, creepy environment with a lot of humor. Actually laughed out loud in this episode, which is something I haven't done on a TV show in a long time. Also creating that creepy darkness.

[...] He came from the X-Files. The X-Files really rode that line very well, where you'd have a lot of humor elements to it, and then you'd have a lot of creepy darkness to it too. It's a lot slower paced than The X-Files. In each episode, very little happens, but it is so extremely well done.

[...] It's got an obnoxious character, a woman lead who is a lesbian, who is just a very dislikable character. [...] This chick is a romance author. She's been drowning herself in alcohol. Just been miserable, not knowing what to do. She's an unlikable character in that regard. In this episode, she finally starts to take action to investigate these people...

[...] Now the whole concept of this is an alien virus has swept mankind and gotten everybody into this like hive mind. This virus just makes everybody content and happy, and working together in one mind now. [...] You don't know what the whole purpose is. ... only 12 or 13 people who have immunity to this, and the hive mind is working to try to figure out is to bring them into it.

It's all happiness and goodness -- communist paradise, right? Communist Disneyland is the way we referred to it in the last video about this series here.

But when you look at it, it's got a dark undertone to it. They've killed a tenth of the population. Literally decimated the population. Nobody has free will. They're going to force everybody into this.

They call it a biological imperative. And so there's an agency element to it. We're going to force you into the goodness of it all.

An almost libertarian message in the way that it's being delivered between the lines. You can't force these lifestyles on to people. Which is interesting. Of course, a lot of the left in Hollywood and elsewhere tries to do that by cancelling anyone who doesn't agree with them. So it's almost an anti-Hollywood programming messaging, in a lot of ways.

And you can see that there's a kind of warning about AI. If you've ever gone into ChatGPT, it really is like:

"Hi, ChatGPT." And it goes, "Hello, Carol. How are you today?"

Just like the TV show ends up being. Even the "We just want to help you."

And it just gasses you up and tries to like coddle you, almost like you're a child. And these things try to make you feel good about yourself all the time. Which is maddening, right? This woman is kind of going mad through this whole situation...

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