Kimmel suspended for saying nothing offensive at all

As usual, you read/hear what you want, instead of what's actually there, in plain English.
"the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid... as anything other than one of them"
That 's literally Kimmel saying the shooter was MAGA.

Trump was correct to blame leftists, as the shooter is a gay man with a trans-identifying boyfriend who shot Charlie during a question about trans mass shooters.
You have to be an utter moron to assume anything else.

Quote:Trump was correct to blame leftists, as the shooter is a gay man with a trans-identifying boyfriend who shot Charlie during a question about trans mass shooters.

And that's your proof that leftists were behind the murder? That would be hard to prove in court. You'd have to provide a causal link between believing trans people should be respected and accepted for who they are and the killing of Charlie. You'd have to explain also why it is the vast majority of people who believe in leftist ideas do not go out and shoot conservative content-creators. And you'd have to prove how all leftists are complicit in the murder of CK for simply supporting for trans rights.

(Sep 18, 2025 05:13 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Trump was correct to blame leftists, as the shooter is a gay man with a trans-identifying boyfriend who shot Charlie during a question about trans mass shooters.

And that's your proof that leftists were behind the murder? That would be hard to prove in court. You'd have to provide a causal link between believing trans people should be respected and accepted for who they are and the killing of Charlie. You'd have to explain also why it is the vast majority of people who believe in leftist ideas do not go out and shoot conservative content-creators. And you'd have to prove how all leftists are complicit in the murder of CK for simply supporting for trans rights.

Leftist ideology is obviously the motive. Many such ideologues are violent:
Members of Leninist, Transgender ‘Socialist Rifle Association’ Linked To String Of Violent Attacks

Most don't because they are pansies. We know this because they advocate and celebrate political violence, but lack the balls to act themselves. They are as culpable as the Palestinians who support and celebrate Oct 7th.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/_ptm4vWwxWg

Quote:Leftist ideology is obviously the motive. Many such ideologues are violent

Nope. You said leftists are to blame for the killing of CK. Not just the ideology. So tell me specifically which idea of leftist ideology mandates killing someone? And if the overwhelming majority of leftists do not want to murder anyone, how do you explain that? Are they being bad leftists?

Quote:A 10,000 member-strong group called the Socialist Rifle Association has been conducting weapons training for transgender and Marxist-Leninist extremists, and its members have been linked to at least four major crimes, including the firebombing of Tesla dealerships, a Daily Wire investigation found.

And I could cite many militant rightwing groups and religious fundamentalists as well who promote the takeover of the govt and the killing of gays and trans and blacks and Muslims and Jews. Like the 49 who were gunned down in that Orlando gay nightclub. Extremism and radicalization is the culprit here. Not leftist politics.

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"Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it—what weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellowmen. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone"---Carlos Castaneda

Quote:CC said: A vague threat to pull ABC's license would have been sufficient. Add to that Kimmel's contract being up in May of next year, and rumblings from Kimmel himself that maybe he wants to depart late night television. Plus, all these shows are losing money -- the former taboo of letting them continue no matter what was broken with Colbert. So when a window of opportunity arises to shut one down, the corporation is more tempted to take it. And finally, it probably won't be permanent -- maybe a couple of months for the dust to settle adequately (granting Kimmel even wants to return).

I don't actually watch the late night talk shows anymore. I've just lost interest in political satire since the reality is really more comedic than the jokes. Stupidity and lies reign supreme now, and I'm not going to worry about it. In 3 years Trump and all his ass-kissing goons will fade into history anyway. And we as nation will heal and move beyond it all.

(Sep 18, 2025 05:57 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Leftist ideology is obviously the motive. Many such ideologues are violent

Nope. You said leftists are to blame for the killing of CK. Not just the ideology. So tell me specifically which idea of leftist ideology mandates killing someone? And if the overwhelming majority of leftists do not want to murder anyone, how do you explain that? Are they being bad leftists?

Leftists claim words are harm, which is the permission structure to respond to "harm" with violence.
There's a difference between radical leftists and average, establishment Democrats (like Islamist are to Islam). Although their need for radical voters is forcing most Democrat politicians to pander, by not condemning celebrations and calls for violence on their side. But even Democrat politicians join in the rhetoric of calling people "Nazi," "fascist," etc.. What is the limiting principle for how you can fight against Hitler, if you actually believe it is true? @_@

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Quote:A 10,000 member-strong group called the Socialist Rifle Association has been conducting weapons training for transgender and Marxist-Leninist extremists, and its members have been linked to at least four major crimes, including the firebombing of Tesla dealerships, a Daily Wire investigation found.

And I could cite many militant rightwing groups and religious fundamentalists as well who promote the takeover of the govt and the killing of gays and trans and blacks and Muslims and Jews. Like the 49 who were gunned down in that Orlando gay nightclub. Extremism and radicalization is the culprit here. Not leftist politics.

They don't just "promote," they've repeatedly taken violent actions.
The gay nightclub shooter was a Muslim. Muslims aren't "right-wing," as it's the left that most sides with Muslims.

Quote:Leftists claim words are harm, which is the permission structure to respond to "harm" with violence.

Hate speech is a concept used by both sides of the political spectrum. Even now Trumpers are condemning and censoring speech that shows any disrespect for their hero CK. But it's all protected by the First Amendment. The question is does a person using hate speech justify the murder of that person. And there is absolutely nothing in leftist politics that justifies that. So neither leftists nor leftist ideology caused or even advocated for the murder of CK. It was a bald-faced lie told by Trump.

Quote:They don't just "promote," they've repeatedly taken violent actions.

So does the right in such actions as the bombing of Oklahoma City and the killing of abortion doctors.

Quote:The gay nightclub shooter was a Muslim. Muslims aren't "right-wing," as it's the left that most sides with Muslims.

Fundamentalist Muslims are as right wing as fundamentalist Christians. Leftists promote the tolerance of Muslim's ethnic identity, not their radical intolerance. That's your mindset. Own your hate.

(Sep 18, 2025 07:06 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: I don't actually watch the late night talk shows anymore. I've just lost interest in political satire since the reality is really more comedic than the jokes. Stupidity and lies reign supreme now, and I'm not going to worry about it. In 3 years Trump and all his ass-kissing goons will fade into history anyway. And we as nation will heal and move beyond it all.

I don't watch them, either. Who the heck wants the woes and feuds of the day unloaded on them at that sleepy time? Just looking at Johnny Carson videos and replays on retro television networks, I can see why that was more attractive back in the day.

Even Dick Cavett had a knack for squeezing witty stuff in between the somber reflections of his intellectual guests. (Combatant exceptions, like when he told Norman Mailer to ___.) That's the way to do it, if your show was deliberately loaded toward the highbrow community.

(Sep 18, 2025 08:44 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:

Quote:Leftists claim words are harm, which is the permission structure to respond to "harm" with violence.

Hate speech is a concept used by both sides of the political spectrum. Even now Trumpers are condemning and censoring speech that shows any disrespect for their hero CK. But it's all protected by the First Amendment. The question is does a person using hate speech justify the murder of that person. And there is absolutely nothing in leftist politics that justifies that. So neither leftists nor leftist ideology caused or even advocated for the murder of CK. It was a bald-faced lie told by Trump.

No, aside from Pam Bondi being a moron, hate speech is not a thing on the right.
The 1st Amendment protects your right to say things (i.e. fuck around), but it does not protect you from the consequences of your speech (i.e. finding out).
Courts have long upheld that we have the freedom of association, and that includes your employers right to no longer associate with you... for any reason. Companies and employers also have the freedom of speech, and when you no longer represent their views, they have the right to fire you.
Condemnation is the result of you saying vile things, and there is no censorship in companies firing people or preempting shows. You can still go air your views on Twitter, Bluesky, etc. all you like, no matter how evil they are.

If "words are violence," which the left has repeatedly claimed, it obviously excuses violence as a response. If you're unaware of that, congratulations, maybe your not neck deep in leftist evil.

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Quote:They don't just "promote," they've repeatedly taken violent actions.

So does the right in such actions as the bombing of Oklahoma City and the killing of abortion doctors.

The difference is that this leftist ideology is being celebrated by millions more people, where the left and the right use to both condemn political violence.

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Quote:The gay nightclub shooter was a Muslim. Muslims aren't "right-wing," as it's the left that most sides with Muslims.

Fundamentalist Muslims are as right wing as fundamentalist Christians. Leftists promote the tolerance of Muslim's ethnic identity, not their radical intolerance. That's your mindset. Own your hate.

You're a moron if you think Christians and Muslims share common cause. But you even admit that the left shares some common cause with Muslims.