Election fraud

(Jan 6, 2021 02:58 AM)confused2 Wrote:

Syne Wrote:So not only have I not been duped by sleight of hand, it only took your own ignorant bias for you to sucker yourself.

Staying with the Chester County - I don't think any progress can be made without the equivalent Biden graph - can you find it? If votes were actually swapped they would show and if they showed we'd have the graph so I suspect nothing to see.

Then you're just completely incapable of any intellectual honesty. Since the graph numbers are the same as the Chester county Trump votes, no graph of Biden votes will change that fact. A Biden graph would only show an increase of votes over time, which is what we would expect of any fair voting tabulation...except didn't find to be true of the Trump votes.

(Jan 6, 2021 04:17 AM)confused2 Wrote: Trump seems to have claimed to have won before the votes were even counted which doesn't inspire sympathy when he loses. That aside the election should be 'free and fair' which means the votes should be fairly counted. Complaining about 'absolutely everything' doesn't give anyone (including a court) anything to go on. The more specific and bigger you (or Trump) can show the better - for example the 49,539 blip in the Chester PA vote might be worth chasing with a view to finding an explanation which might (possibly) be systematic/endemic and could have changed the outcome of the election. Regardless, what looks very much like attempts to snow everyone (including courts)  have not only failed but raised the bar for the quality of evidence required when time is short and evidence is already lost.  At some point you (the US)  may have to accept the Trump lost the election for (insert reason) and make sure it doesn't happen again.

Every political candidate claims they're going to win prior to the election. So that's a nonsense complaint. When people do so many things to make the election appear suspect, it would be like herding cats to keep observers from reporting what they witnessed. And had any court decided to actually hear all of the evidence, which is not presented in full for a preliminary hearing, we'd have had the opportunity to see the details...only reported in the many articles posted to this thread and many more. Again, your bias snows you.

Unlike leftists, once inaugurated (the only hard cutoff date in the Constitution), we largely will accept the results...except to troll the left with their own histrionics about Trump in 2016. Quit projecting that leftist behavior on the right, as there's no evidence nor history of it. And we will redouble our efforts to assert state's right, just like the left has done in illegal immigrant sanctuary cities, legalized marijuana and even decriminalized hard drugs, etc.. We'll just have sanctuary states for free speech, freedom of religion, self-defense, right to life, etc..

This all begs the question as to what Trump is trying to hold out for. I mean the likelihood of the vote being overturned grows slim with every passing hour, so the circle jerk of trying to keep people from having him lose is really about what... getting some mandates appointed before his removal? Cashing out the Federally ceased bitcoins before the next president gets office?

It should make you question the actual endgame that's in play rather than the circular usage of falacy.

This GA election is deja vu - go to bed seeing a Republican winning (Perdue) and wake up to see Democrats take all. Hmm. Is this the new normal? Ballots counted into the wee hours of the night go to Democrats?

(Jan 6, 2021 02:17 PM)Leigha Wrote: This GA election is deja vu - go to bed seeing a Republican winning (Perdue) and wake up to see Democrats take all. Hmm. Is this the new normal? Ballots counted into the wee hours of the night go to Democrats?

Just musing..

In a society where kids grow up learning there’s no winners or losers, one shouldn’t really care how the game is played. I think it only proper that Trump is given a participation medal and that he should be happy with what really isn’t a loss. It’s a win and a loss for everybody to share. You played and that’s what’s important.  

But if ever there was opportunity to play crooked, dishonest, behaving badly or whatever you want to call it then this is the time. Play is play, make up your own rules, encourage innovative thought and be a happy loser. You got outfoxed, whether fairly or not, the game is over. There’s no more unfair play, it’s a relic of a bygone era when people cared about being awarded for winning. Now you’re rewarded equally for playing.

What I don’t see is the gal or guy who came in dead last at the Olympics, endorsing products on TV.

For Americans....be happy. Give yourselves a participation medal.

(Jan 6, 2021 02:17 PM)Leigha Wrote: This GA election is deja vu - go to bed seeing a Republican winning (Perdue) and wake up to see Democrats take all. Hmm. Is this the new normal? Ballots counted into the wee hours of the night go to Democrats?

Georgia has not only renounced its supposed redness, but may have unofficially made the transition to becoming a state equivalent of Chicago for many years to come, in terms of political corruption.

Political history of Chicago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_...of_Chicago

"Beware of Greeks offering altruism, whether television evangelists or preaching Leftarians."

(Jan 6, 2021 04:27 PM)C C Wrote:

(Jan 6, 2021 02:17 PM)Leigha Wrote: This GA election is deja vu - go to bed seeing a Republican winning (Perdue) and wake up to see Democrats take all. Hmm. Is this the new normal? Ballots counted into the wee hours of the night go to Democrats?

Georgia has not only renounced its supposed redness, but may have unofficially made the transition to becoming a state equivalent of Chicago for many years to come, in terms of political corruption. 

Political history of Chicago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_...of_Chicago

"Beware of Greeks offering altruism, whether television evangelists or preaching Leftarians."

Guess the next thing is to figure out how it's done. You'd think somebody somewhere will spill a few beans if not for money, out of anger, or just not wanting to be a lone scapegoat. Perhaps bodies will start washing up on Georgia's shores or people just disappear. Maybe its those guys who run Augusta National, Trump's a golfer and perhaps he uses a foot wedge or he shagged the beverage cart girl and they're getting even.

(Jan 6, 2021 12:48 PM)stryder Wrote: This all begs the question as to what Trump is trying to hold out for.  I mean the likelihood of the vote being overturned grows slim with every passing hour, so the circle jerk of trying to keep people from having him lose is really about what... getting some mandates appointed before his removal?  Cashing out the Federally ceased bitcoins before the next president gets office?

It should make you question the actual endgame that's in play rather than the circular usage of falacy.

Uh...the truth. Some people still care about that, no matter how it may benefit them personally. And Trump is President until January 20th, so he doesn't have to do anything to retain his ability to make executive orders, appointments, firings, etc.. Thinking there's some nefarious ulterior motive is just a conspiracy theory.

And it's always a weak argument to accuse someone of a fallacy you don't or can't specify.

(Jan 6, 2021 02:17 PM)Leigha Wrote: This GA election is deja vu - go to bed seeing a Republican winning (Perdue) and wake up to see Democrats take all. Hmm. Is this the new normal? Ballots counted into the wee hours of the night go to Democrats?

Since nothing's been done since the general election, everyone expected the exact same thing to happen in this runoff. And it did.
They've gone so far left that they can only win through corruption.

Pence defies Trump, says he can't reject electoral votes
BY JILL COLVIN AND ZEKE MILLER ASSOCIATED PRESS

https://www.azfamily.com/news/us_world_n...YIdXSjnO6Y

Actually it appears it's to do with pushing to pump out oil from Alaska.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-e...lar-bears/

Twitter locks Trump out over election fraud tweets amid Capitol siege

https://www.axios.com/twitter-removes-tr...-BtNfFdO6w

After Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Wednesday, Twitter removed three of the president's tweets and locked his account for 12 hours, saying it may ban him if he doesn't stop breaking its rules with his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

Why it matters: It's Twitter's strongest action against the president's account to date. A number of groups have called on Facebook and Twitter to fully suspend Trump's accounts.

Details: Twitter removed from view three tweets including one that included a video from the president calling on the rioters to go home but also praising them and repeating baseless claims of voter fraud.

"As a result of the unprecedented and ongoing violent situation in Washington, D.C., we have required the removal of three @realDonaldTrump Tweets that were posted earlier today for repeated and severe violations of our Civic Integrity policy," Twitter said in a post to its TwitterSafety account.

Although the tweets are gone from public view, Trump will have to delete them to get his account back, Twitter said. Further rule violations could lead to the permanent suspension of his account.

Facebook and YouTube have also taken down the video, while Facebook removed one of Trump's most recent written posts.

The big picture: Color of Change, the Anti-Defamation League and other groups and individuals called on both Facebook and Twitter to delete the president's account."