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Quote:All preceded by threats of complete annihilation, with the imminent attainment of the means to do so, or actual attacks (often over decades).

You're lying again. Iran didn't threaten "complete annihilation" of Israel before they attacked them in February. And Lebanon didn't threaten "complete annihilation" of Israel either. And no, you can't count an attack a response to an attack that happened decades ago moron. It doesn't work like that. These are all unprovoked attacks by Israel based on the mere fear that someday they might get attacked and are not a justification for attacking ever. History is quite clear on this.

(Apr 13, 2026 12:33 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:All preceded by threats of complete annihilation, with the imminent attainment of the means to do so, or actual attacks (often over decades).

You're lying again. Iran didn't threaten "complete annihilation" of Israel before they attacked them in February. And Lebanon didn't threaten "complete annihilation" of Israel either.

Iran has been chanting "Death to America, death to Israel" for decades. What rock have you been living under this whole time? @_@

"Israel won't exist in 25 years" is a statement by Ali Khamenei, then Supreme Leader of Iran, in a 2015 speech about Israel after the Iran nuclear deal framework, which was published on his Twitter.
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Khamenei repeated this sentence in his meeting with Ramadan Abdullah and said: "As we have said before, the Zionist regime will not have a foreign existence in the next 25 years under the condition of the general and united struggle of the Palestinians and Muslims against the Zionists."
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_won...n_25_years


Based on reports and analyses of Iranian rhetoric over several decades, official Iranian representatives and state media have frequently used language that observers and legal experts characterize as direct threats of genocide and the physical annihilation of the State of Israel.
- Google AI


1985 Open Letter (Hezbollah Founding Manifesto)
Issued on February 16, 1985, this manifesto outlined the core principles of the organization. Key tenets included:

Destruction of Israel: Stated that the final departure of Israel from Lebanon was a "prelude to its final obliteration from existence".
- Google AI

Seeing how ignorant you are yet? @_@

Quote:And no, you can't count an attack a response to an attack that happened decades ago moron. It doesn't work like that. These are all unprovoked attacks by Israel based on the mere fear that someday they might attack and not a justification for attacking. History is quite clear on this.

Learn to read. Here, I'll give you another chance:

(Apr 13, 2026 12:14 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]All preceded by threats of complete annihilation, with the imminent attainment of the means to do so, or actual attacks (often over decades).
Iran, by demanding Lebanon be included in a ceasefire deal, has admitted Hezbollah is considered an Iranian force. Hezbollah has been a threat to Israel for decades. Iran has repeatedly touted their genocidal intent toward all Jews, and they were about to attain weapons grade uranium.

Where do you imagine you read "decades ago"? @_@
Do you read not comprehend that the simple English "over decades" or "for decades" doesn't mean "decades ago." @_@

Previous Conflict (2023-2024): Hezbollah fired missiles across the border on October 8, 2023, starting a low-level conflict that escalated throughout 2024, including the death of Hassan Nasrallah on September 27, 2024.
Long-Term Conflict: Since the 2006 Lebanon War, Hezbollah has maintained periodic, smaller attacks on Israel, leading to frequent regional tension.
- Google AI

So the day after the Hamas Oct 7th massacre, Hezbollah attacked Israel unprovoked. That's not decades ago, historical illiterate.

April 13, 2024: Iran launched over 300 drones and missiles (170 drones, 30 cruise missiles, and 120 ballistic missiles).
This marked the first time Iran directly attacked Israel from its own territory, retaliating for an Israeli strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.
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The Israeli strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus on April 1, 2024, was a precision operation aimed at eliminating senior leadership of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

Role: Zahedi led the Quds Force in Lebanon and Syria and was the key link between Tehran and Hezbollah.
- Google AI

Again, not decades ago.
And since Iran just tried to claim Lebanon had to be part of any ceasefire agreement, they have admitted Hezbollah is a proxy of theirs.


You ever get tired of being so wrong and so ignorant so often? @_@

Quote:Iran has been chanting "Death to America, death to Israel" for decades. What rock have you been living under this whole time?

So the fuck what? You can't just go in and blow up a country because they chant "death to Israel".
Speech isn't an act of war dumbshit. Only attacking with missiles and drones is.

Quote:Hezbollah fired missiles across the border on October 8, 2023, starting a low-level conflict that escalated throughout 2024, including the death of Hassan Nasrallah on September 27, 2024.

That was three years ago. Pretty sure Israel responded to it back then. An attack in 2026 out of the blue by Israel can in no way be another response to that. The attack has to be immediate to justify a response. Clearly Israel attacked Lebanon and Iran without being provoked. Just as they did with Egypt and Syria. They obviously have a penchant for this sort of unprovoked terrorism. "Oh but they threatened us!" lol

(Apr 13, 2026 01:27 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Iran has been chanting "Death to America, death to Israel" for decades. What rock have you been living under this whole time?

So the fuck what? You can't just go in and blow up a country because they chant "death to Israel".
Speech isn't an act of war dumbshit. Only attacking with missiles and drones is.

And funded terrorism throughout the ME, attacking Israel for decades. That's words backup with actions.
You really are just incapable of reading anything that doesn't affirm your ignorance, huh? @_@

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Quote:Hezbollah fired missiles across the border on October 8, 2023, starting a low-level conflict that escalated throughout 2024, including the death of Hassan Nasrallah on September 27, 2024.

That was three years ago. Pretty sure Israel responded to it back then. An attack in 2026 out of the blue by Israel can in no way be another response to that. The attack has to be immediate to justify a response. Clearly Israel attacked Lebanon and Iran without being provoked. Just as they did with Egypt and Syria. They clearly have a penchant for this sort of terrorism.

Yes, Israel did respond. And Hezbollah was rebuilding, while Lebanon wanted them out but has been unable to do it themselves.
Israel attacked Hezbollah, not the legit government of Lebanon.

As of April 2026, Israel escalated military actions against Hezbollah in Lebanon following retaliatory rocket and drone strikes by the group. These attacks were launched in response to the United States and Israel beginning a military campaign against Iran, with Israel aiming to dismantle Hezbollah’s capabilities, secure its northern border for displaced residents, and retaliate against drone attacks.
- Google AI

See where Hezbollah started attacking Israel, on Iran's behalf? Israel didn't directly provoke Hezbollah.


As usual, you just ignore all the fact you don't like... doomed to remain completely ignorant of history.
How long until you're denying the Holocaust or blaming it on Jews? @_@

(Apr 13, 2026 12:14 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 12, 2026 09:10 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really starting to like this Oliver guy!

Of course you do. It's TDS on crack.

There's suspicion that "Oliver Kornetzke" is a bot, an AI creation.

(Apr 13, 2026 01:48 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 13, 2026 12:14 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 12, 2026 09:10 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really starting to like this Oliver guy!

Of course you do. It's TDS on crack.

There's suspicion that "Oliver Kornetzke" is a bot, an AI creation.

He should run for president in 2028. I don't care if he IS AI! Maybe it's time.

(Apr 13, 2026 02:48 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 13, 2026 01:48 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 13, 2026 12:14 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]

(Apr 12, 2026 09:10 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]I'm really starting to like this Oliver guy!

Of course you do. It's TDS on crack.

There's suspicion that "Oliver Kornetzke" is a bot, an AI creation.

He should run for president in 2028. I don't care if he IS AI! Maybe it's time.

Yeah, MR votes for guys he has a crush on or AI that tells him what he wants to hear.
Can't argue with that kind of sharp discernment.

The US Central Command made the following announcement Sunday (April 12) afternoon:

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2043432050921718194

Quote:U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) forces will begin implementing a blockade of all maritime traffic entering and exiting Iranian ports on April 13 at 10 a.m. ET, in accordance with the President’s proclamation.

The blockade will be enforced impartially against vessels of all nations entering or departing Iranian ports and coastal areas, including all Iranian ports on the Arabian Gulf and Gulf of Oman. CENTCOM forces will not impede freedom of navigation for vessels transiting the Strait of Hormuz to and from non-Iranian ports.

Additional information will be provided to commercial mariners through a formal notice prior to the start of the blockade. All mariners are advised to monitor Notice to Mariners broadcasts and contact U.S. naval forces on bridge-to-bridge channel 16 when operating in the Gulf of Oman and Strait of Hormuz approaches.

Yeah, we don't want to play this game where Iran lets it's own tankers through, likely bound for China, or gets to fund itself extorting shipping companies with exorbitant tolls.

(Apr 13, 2026 04:32 AM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, we don't want to play this game where Iran lets it's own tankers through, likely bound for China, or gets to fund itself extorting shipping companies with exorbitant tolls.

A while back the mission objective was to stop Iran from making a nuclear bomb. A suggestion at the time was to bomb any facility that looked like it might be used for making nuclear weapons .. aka 'mowing the grass' - this had the benefit of being a contained military response to a perceived military threat. And now Trump wants to stop Iranian oil from reaching China - does this make any sense or is this just mission creep caused by Trump wanting to show "I am the greatest and I can do anything I want"?