How to spot misogynists and misandrists

[Leigha]

Has anyone ever had a personal experience in dealing with a misandrist or misogynist? Online or offline? There is a guy on SF who posts a lot of anti-women rhetoric, but I feel sorry for him, to believe that dehumanizing women is somehow going to improve his life. When I read his posts, I wonder, who hurt this guy? What happened in his childhood? Why does he need women's approval to feel like his life means something? I think if you see ''all'' women as bad, evil, etc and the reason your life is in bad shape, you could be a misogynist. Same holds true if you're a misandrist.

I think the difference between a mere sexist and a misogynist is that misogynists literally have a hatred of an entire group based on its gender. The hatred is so deep, that they treat most or all within that gender, as inferior, trash, and look to dehumanize them. Same for misandrists. I think the term misogyny is often misused however, to describe a guy who is a player, or a sexist. He may treat women poorly but he's not filled with contempt for women. But, it has become the ''catch all'' term that comes up in the media, right now.

[C C]

. . . I think the difference between a mere sexist and a misogynist is that misogynists literally have a hatred of an entire group based on its gender. The hatred is so deep, that they treat most or all within that gender, as inferior, trash, and look to dehumanize them.

The common perception of what "misogynism" is intensity-wise may have been erratic over time. In ffolkes or North Sea Hijack (1980), Roger Moore played a character labeled a misogynist in the reviews (if not the movie itself, too). But as best as I can remember (which isn't much) he seemed to spout the kind of casual disparagement and lack of confidence in women that's depicted as stereotypically routine with gatherings of men that chattered amongst themselves in earlier decades. (In contrast, their wives idly trading remarks about how doltish, lazy, or worthless their husbands were.)

John Wayne was noted for not caring about the company of females outside of household, vacation, and public event environs (and obviously acting chores). Although there were exceptions like Maureen O'Hara (he didn't have a problem with a woman who knew how to blend in as "one of the boys" around a poker table, etc).

Groucho Marx's facetious mockery could carry at least a snippet of his personal views: "Women should be obscene and not heard." A daughter of Marx once commented in a documentary interview that he preferred to pursue and marry women who were alcoholics, because he loved to fight/quarrel and could always win an argument with them.

[Leigha]

Makes ya wonder, CC, doesn't it? How many celebs who we have touted as historic legends, were actually misogynists in disguise?