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Corporate gay pride..

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Secular Sanity Offline
(Jun 22, 2019 12:16 AM)Syne Wrote: Not surprise that SS' marriage is lacking in genuine affection, at least publicly. I wouldn't be too affectionate to a misandrist either...although I'd never put up with one long enough to entertain the notion of marriage.

Are you saying that I am a misandrist, Syne?
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#12
confused2 Online
“We must have kissed or hugged or something like that, because right away they saw that we were together, so they came after us,” she said in the radio interview."

MR Wrote:Apparently public displays of affection among gay people are badges they wear meriting them being attacked.
Well at least one person knows what a metaphor is. I kinda sense they (MR) might be working up to some point of principle (unspecified). My (totally unprincipled) request was that people I have known in the past, people I know now and people I may know in the future just travel home on a bus (or train) without having to stop off at the casualty department of the nearest hospital on the way. I can see how ridiculous that might sound when you can so easily travel by bus (or train) and make a point at the same time. If all works out well in the (quoted above) case of the two women attacked on a London bus the women will have spent a short time in the local hospital and the (alleged) five youths responsible for the attack might (or might not) take a slightly longer break in prison where they will meet the right sort of people to help them sort out their prejudices.

MR Wrote:Not saying be in the closet exactly, or pretending you are straight, but just being discrete. That's all I'm saying. Save the rainbow flag shirt and pink sunglasses for the pride festival where everyone is expected to display it.


I think we all understand the warmth we get from the touch from someone we love (except [possibly] Syne).

I am working a thread start about metaphors, similes, hyperbole, sarcasm and irony for the benefit of our American members.
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#13
Syne Offline
Number one on wanting to actually kill gays are the Democrats' Muslim darlings. Not so coincidentally, Democrats are also the folks calling for people to be harassed in public.
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Magical Realist Offline
(Jun 22, 2019 03:52 AM)Syne Wrote: Number one on wanting to actually kill gays are the Democrats' Muslim darlings. Not so coincidentally, Democrats are also the folks calling for people to be harassed in public.

LOL! Yeah, that's what I'm worried about when I walk down the street---roving bands of murderous muslims and democrats.
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#15
Syne Offline
(Jun 22, 2019 04:04 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Jun 22, 2019 03:52 AM)Syne Wrote: Number one on wanting to actually kill gays are the Democrats' Muslim darlings. Not so coincidentally, Democrats are also the folks calling for people to be harassed in public.

LOL! Yeah, that's what I'm worried about when I walk down the street---roving bands of murderous muslims and democrats.

Well, you're a known paranoiac, so I'm sure you're worried about a lot of imaginary things you've never actually been threatened by in real life. Even though, in reality, Muslims would be the greatest threat, as they regularly stone and throw gays off rooftops. But you just keep supporting the Democrats who make excuses for them in the name of multiculturalism.
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Syne Offline
(Jun 22, 2019 11:21 PM)confused2 Wrote: In contrast to Syne's claim
"..they [Muslims]regularly stone and throw gays off rooftops."
We also see:-
The Muslim world is more tolerant of homosexuality than you think:-
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/10/the-...you-think/
At least one claim must be fake news.

A few anecdotal stories in countries without strict Sharia law.

And no one said that people willing to kill gays couldn't engage in gay behavior themselves, as has been known in many Arab countries (where strict separation of the sexes tends to lead to just that). Under Sharia law, there's a difference between what you do in private, with no witnesses to testify, and openly claiming to be or acting gay.
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C C Offline
(Jun 19, 2019 10:40 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: [Clickable Facebook video below, not an image]

Here's an op-ed piece addressing that actual [original] topic. Where a rather young-looking writer seems to be waxing nostalgic about returning to a supposed red-flag waving spirit of several decades ago. "Okay, we're all in agreement then. We don't like this successful, exploitively flattering bastard that we're currently working for. So let's go over to Chill Dog's block and work for a bankrupt, opportunistic bastard who's promising utopia to anyone who will follow. That'll solve everything." --Two Bells Till Blunner

From Rainbow to Red
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06...story.html

EXCERPT: Mark Horn joined the Gay Liberation Front -- the first queer activist group to emerge after the Stonewall riots -- when he was 19 years old, becoming the radical organization’s youngest member. [...] That same year, Horn marched in ... New York City’s first Pride demonstration. “There were no corporate floats,” Horn said, “because there were no corporations willing to stand up and be on our side.”

This year’s Pride parade on June 30 -- where Horn, now 66, will join GLF alumni as one of the parade’s grand marshals -- will look remarkably different: Where once homemade signs reading “Gay Power” dominated, it will now be floats for brands like TD Bank and H&M. Grumbling about the corporate takeover of Pride has become something of a cliché, the basic complaint being that the corporate presence is more lip service than real advocacy. But if this Pride season—where so many queer activists have partnered with brands—is anything to go by, the majority of LGBTQ people have embraced corporate sponsorship as a sign of ultimate inclusion, an end to our fight for equality. Not exactly what GLF, who organized the first march, had planned.

It’s worth noting that the current situation is a strange inversion of the hold capitalism had over queer people before Stonewall. In the ’60s, most middle-class queer people were afraid to come out for fear of losing their jobs; many were blackmailed with the threat of a public outing and paid to remain in the closet and keep their middle-class status. Because of this fear, the LGBTQ rights movement was initially populated with people who were already ignored by the status quo, including socialists and communists.

But those origins have been largely ignored or forgotten. Today, even when democratic socialism has more political momentum in the U.S. than ever thanks to figures such as Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, queer people are still largely in the thrall of our corporate “benefactors.”

To be fair, this is not totally unreasonable: Of all modern political systems, capitalism has arguably been the most welcoming to queer folks. Just look at the current ad campaigns featuring queer and gender nonconforming people, unquestionably a huge step for positive representation. But looking around at queer life right now, I’ve begun to worry that capitalism is shaping our collective consciousness in ways that should concern us. Capitalism infiltrates our entire sense of what we value, from our bank accounts to our bodies, where wealth and accumulation have become markers of queer progress and joy.  We can do better than this. It’s time to return to the revolutionary roots of our movement, when queer people ignited actions for social reform and economic progress for all. (MORE - details)
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#19
Leigha Offline
(Jun 22, 2019 12:20 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: I guess when it comes to being straight, it is ok to be public about that with hand holding and wedding rings and sexy dresses (even though lesbians probably wear sexy dresses). But it's different when you're gay. There are people out there who believe we should be harassed and beat up and even killed for our orientation. There are potential discriminatory actions against you with the company you may work at. It is a matter of practical sense to not be open about it to total strangers. Not saying be in the closet exactly, or pretending you are straight, but just being discrete.  That's all I'm saying. Save the rainbow flag shirt and pink sunglasses for the pride festival where everyone is expected to display it.

Freedom of expression should be afforded to anyone, within reason. (Obviously nudists would want to be free to express themselves in public, but...that's a bit different) No one has the right to assault anyone, for any reason.
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billvon Offline
(Aug 6, 2019 07:04 PM)Leigha Wrote: Freedom of expression should be afforded to anyone, within reason. (Obviously nudists would want to be free to express themselves in public, but...that's a bit different) No one has the right to assault anyone, for any reason.
And along the lines of corporate gay pride, here's the Pride Parade contingent from my company  :


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