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Why Can't I Remember My Dreams.....

#31
Magical Realist Offline
"It’s been shown that deep non-REM sleep strengthens individual memories. But REM sleep is when those memories can be fused and blended together in abstract and highly novel ways. During the dreaming state, your brain will cogitate vast swaths of acquired knowledge and then extract overarching rules and commonalties, creating a mindset that can help us divine solutions to previously impenetrable problems.

How do we know dreaming and not just sleep is important to this process?

In one study, we tested this by waking up participants during the night—during both non-REM sleep and dreaming sleep—and gave them very short tests: solving anagram puzzles, where you try to unscramble letters to form a word (e.g., OSEOG = GOOSE). First, participants were tested beforehand, just to familiarize them with the test. Then, we monitored their sleep and woke them up at different points of the night to perform the test. When woken during non-REM sleep, they were not particularly creative—they could solve very few puzzles. But, when we woke up participants during REM sleep, they were able to solve 15-35 percent more puzzles than when they were awake. Not only that, participants woken while dreaming reported that the solution just “popped” into their heads, as if it were effortless.

In another study, I and my colleagues taught participants a series of relational facts—such as, A>B, B>C, C>D, and so on—and tested their understanding by asking them questions (e.g., Is B>D or not?). Afterwards, we compared their performance on this test before and after a full night’s sleep, and also after they’d had a 60- to 90-minute nap that included REM sleep. Those who’d slept or had a long nap performed much better on this test than when they were awake, as if they’d put together disparate pieces of a jigsaw puzzle in their sleep.

Some may consider this trivial, but it is one of the key operations differentiating your brain from your computer. It also underlies the difference between knowledge (retention of individual facts) and wisdom (knowing what they all mean when you fit them together). The latter seems to be the work of REM-sleep dreaming.

“It’s said that time heals all wounds, but my research suggests that time spent in dream sleep is what heals”
―Dr. Matthew Walker

Dreaming improves creative problem solving, too, according to another study. Participants learned to navigate a virtual maze using trial and error and aided by the placement of unique objects—like Christmas trees—at certain junctions in the maze. After this learning session, the group was split in two, with half napping and half watching a video for 90 minutes. Nappers were occasionally awoken to ask about the content of their dreams; those watching a video were also asked about thoughts going through their minds.

Afterwards, the participants again tried to solve the maze, and those who napped were significantly better at it than those who didn’t, as expected. But the nappers who reported dreaming about the maze were 10 times better at the task than those who napped and didn’t dream about the maze. There’s a reason you’ve never been told to stay awake on a problem.

Looking at the content of these dreams, it was clear that the participants didn’t dream a precise replay of the learning experience while awake. Instead, they were cherry-picking salient fragments of the learning experience and attempting to place them within the catalog of preexisting knowledge. This is how dreaming helps us be more creative.

While the benefits of dreaming are real, too many of us have problems getting a full eight hours of sleep and lose out on these advantages. Alternatively, we may think we’re the exception to the rule—that we’re one of those people who doesn’t happen to need a lot of sleep. But nothing could be further from the truth. Research clearly shows that people who overestimate their ability to get by on less sleep are sadly wrong."----- https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article...s_to_dream
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#32
Zinjanthropos Offline
(Mar 18, 2018 12:16 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: “It’s said that time heals all wounds, but my research suggests that time spent in dream sleep is what heals”
―Dr. Matthew Walker

There’s a reason you’ve never been told to stay awake on a problem.

I'm assuming the ailments have more to do with the emotional state and not physical? 

The problems requiring solutions I assume are not really solved but a notion may crop up and only when awake can you actually get down to using the dream idea to solve the problem? I mean no one has access to tools or computers while sleeping or dreaming although knowledge of how they work may be all that's required.

Quote:Research clearly shows that people who overestimate their ability to get by on less sleep are sadly wrong."

I would tend to agree but what if one can better solve problems while awake? Does a good problem solver need dreaming or have they been dreaming and solving without any memory of their dreams?
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Do other animals dream? I know I'm an animal that dreams, so why not others. Why would only humans dream? 

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140425...ream-about
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#33
Secular Sanity Offline
(Mar 16, 2018 03:50 AM)Syne Wrote: So you think being aware of dreaming is dreaming that you're dreaming?
I doubt you'll ever sort out why I would ask.
(Mar 17, 2018 10:15 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Mar 17, 2018 04:14 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Mar 17, 2018 03:17 AM)Syne Wrote: Like I said, my question does seem to have been lost on you.

Alright. Care to elaborate? I'm all ears.
Clearly a waste of time.

OMG! You always act like you have some profound insight that you want to lay on us and then when given the chance...big drum roll and then crickets. It figures.

I’ll admit that I didn’t seek out information on the topic beforehand, but there’s so much garbage out there, and I really can’t find anything that proves otherwise.

Quote:Neuroscientist J. Allan Hobson has hypothesized what might be occurring in the brain while lucid. The first step to lucid dreaming is recognizing one is dreaming. This recognition might occur in the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, which is one of the few areas deactivated during REM sleep and where working memory occurs. Once this area is activated and the recognition of dreaming occurs, the dreamer must be cautious to let the dream continue but be conscious enough to remember that it is a dream. While maintaining this balance, the amygdala and parahippocampal cortex might be less intensely activated. To continue the intensity of the dream hallucinations, it is expected the pons and the parieto-occipital junction stay active.

Experiments by Stephen LaBerge used "perception of the outside world" as a criterion for wakefulness while studying lucid dreamers, and their sleep state was corroborated with physiological measurements.
Lucid Dream (wikipedia.org)
Pre-Lucid Dream (wikipedia.org)

Quote:False awakenings, namely those in which one dreams that one has awoken from sleep that featured dreams, take on aspects of a double dream or a dream within a dream.
False Awakening (wikipedia.org)

I walked in my sleep even in my early twenties.  Mostly when I was stressed or sleep deprived but my perception of the outside world was still pretty good.  If my dreams weren't too outlandish, I could even convince other people that I wasn’t sleepwalking.  In fact, I was still asleep when I was arguing with my father.  The funny part of it is, is that I could almost always convince my brother or my mother that he was wrong. "Don’t listen to him.  I’m not dreaming this time, I swear!" So, LaBerge’s criterion for wakefulness, (signal-verified lucid dreams) doesn't sound too convincing to me.

So...IMHO, false awakenings, pre-lucid dreams, and a lucid dreams are all very similar. IOW, you’re dreaming a dream.
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#34
Syne Offline
(Mar 18, 2018 04:14 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Do other animals dream? I know I'm an animal that dreams, so why not others. Why would only humans dream? 

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140425...ream-about
Yeah, like I said:
(Mar 17, 2018 10:15 PM)Syne Wrote: Dreaming would seem to be overhead for a certain degree of neural capacity. It's like the brain is a capacitor that builds up charge (of all the stimuli we only process subconsciously) throughout the day and must be discharged during sleep to protect its functioning. It's not that dreaming confers adaptive advantage. It is just a side effect of a brain that does.
That includes animal brains.
(Mar 18, 2018 04:30 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Mar 16, 2018 03:50 AM)Syne Wrote: So you think being aware of dreaming is dreaming that you're dreaming?
I doubt you'll ever sort out why I would ask.
(Mar 17, 2018 10:15 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Mar 17, 2018 04:14 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Mar 17, 2018 03:17 AM)Syne Wrote: Like I said, my question does seem to have been lost on you.

Alright. Care to elaborate? I'm all ears.
Clearly a waste of time.

OMG! You always act like you have some profound insight that you want to lay on us and then when given the chance...big drum roll and then crickets. It figures.

I’ll admit that I didn’t seek out information on the topic beforehand, but there’s so much garbage out there, and I really can’t find anything that proves otherwise.
All you're subsequent posts have shown that you conflate things far too much to understand. If you can't clearly distinguish lucid dreaming from a dream within a dream from sleepwalking, me trying to get you to is pointless. Case in point:
Quote:I walked in my sleep even in my early twenties.  Mostly when I was stressed or sleep deprived but my perception of the outside world was still pretty good.  If my dreams wearn't too outlandish, I could even convince other people that I wasn’t sleepwalking.  In fact, I was still asleep when I was arguing with my father.  The funny part of it is, is that I could almost always convince my brother or my mother that he was wrong. "Don’t listen to him.  I’m not dreaming this time, I swear!" So, LaBerge’s criterion for wakefulness, (signal-verified lucid dreams) doesn't sound too convincing to me.

So...IMHO, false awakenings, pre-lucid dreams, and a lucid dreams are all very similar. IOW, you’re dreaming a dream.
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#35
Zinjanthropos Offline
Ever gently disturb a cat while it's sleeping? There were times when my last cat would behave as if it were running, all while asleep. Don't report me to the SPCA but I would sometimes gently nudge my cat awake while the sleep running was taking place. At first there's just a slow response but at some point it would suddenly react as if it had seen a ghost, jumping up with raised fur on its back to even running away. There were also times when instead of running it would check out what I was doing.

I don't think this is too much different from a reaction I would have if awakened from a dream. It usually takes me a moment to completely turn on the brain, analyze and then react. I may not run or jump but if I either feel relief or terror then I think that qualifies as a reaction.

Casually speaking....My point is: Both my cat and I react and each of us requires that short interlude to fully comprehend the awakening experience. Is this proof that cats dream? Probably not but it is a shared response, I do it too. Dreams are actually very short in duration and I'm my mind I think they may be that way because the dream I remember could be preparing us for the awakening. Be ready for anything which may mean our defence mechanisms are the last or first to turn on and dreams flip the switch..
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