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Why gun violence research has been shut down for 20 years

#31
Syne Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 12:45 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Feb 21, 2018 11:59 PM)Syne Wrote: Yeah, not specifying means they likely include such. You're the delusional ass-hat who refuses to read the CDC report Obama was so hep on funding.


Then it includes crimes committed with guns, in which case a person who pulls out a gun is more likely to get shot themselves. You can't have it both ways liar.

What part of "not specify" don't you understand, imbecile? "Including" one thing doesn't mean it must include another.
But just keep making vain attempts to justify your ignorance. It's fun to watch.
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#32
Magical Realist Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 12:49 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Feb 22, 2018 12:45 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
(Feb 21, 2018 11:59 PM)Syne Wrote: Yeah, not specifying means they likely include such. You're the delusional ass-hat who refuses to read the CDC report Obama was so hep on funding.


Then it includes crimes committed with guns, in which case a person who pulls out a gun is more likely to get shot themselves. You can't have it both ways liar.

What part of "not specify" don't you understand, imbecile? "Including" one thing doesn't mean it must include another.
But just keep making vain attempts to justify your ignorance. It's fun to watch.

What do the stats actually say? How is it worded? Quote it if it actually exists. How many crimes (unspecified as to whether there was a gun involved or not) were actually prevented by the mere presentation of a gun?
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#33
Syne Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 01:03 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [quote='Syne' pid='18136' dateline='1519256952']
What do the stats actually say? How is it worded? Quote it if it actually exists. How many crimes (unspecified as to whether there was a gun involved or not) were actually prevented by the mere presentation of a gun?

Again, I'm not going to enable your repeatedly demonstrated intellectual dishonesty. As already established, if you really believed I was lying, you'd agree to admit your mistakes if proven otherwise...which you won't. So we're just left with your lazy arguments. And likely would only get some nonsense parsing of any quoted facts to continue justifying your ignorance.

That there are many more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes is sufficient. And I've given you more than enough info to find it yourself. So quit being a chirping little baby bird and get out of your nest already.
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#34
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:That there are many more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes is sufficient.

Backing off on the crime deterrence of gun presentation then? I knew you were lying. You're pathetic..
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#35
Syne Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 02:17 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:That there are many more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes is sufficient.

Backing off on the crime deterrence of gun presentation then? I knew you were lying. You're pathetic..

Really? How do you think there are more defensive uses of guns than gun crimes AND so many more defensive uses than gun deaths, including accidents and suicides?
Do you really think there are more non-lethal shoot outs than all gun deaths or all guns crimes? More shoot outs than guns crimes? Let that sink in.
No, you don't think. You just make unfounded accusations you don't have the balls to seriously challenge.
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#36
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Do you really think there are more non-lethal shoot outs than all gun deaths or all guns crimes? More shoot outs than guns crimes?

LOL! Who knows? Who cares? I just know there are no stats on how many crimes are deterred by someone just presenting a gun. And the fact that you lie about that and change the subject shows you have nothing left to argue. So why don't you STFU and move on?
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#37
Syne Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 03:40 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Do you really think there are more non-lethal shoot outs than all gun deaths or all guns crimes? More shoot outs than guns crimes?

LOL! Who knows? Who cares? I just know there are no stats on how many crimes are deterred by someone just presenting a gun. And the fact that you lie about that and change the subject shows you have nothing left to argue. So why don't you STFU and move on?

Of course you don't know or care..even about applying simple arithmetic.

Again, that you won't agree to admit you're wrong and apologize, if proven wrong, shows you don't really believe anyone is lying here. And you're too chick-shit to go look for yourself. Again, Obama told the CDC to make that report. What are you so afraid of?

If you don't like it, quit spewing complete garbage.
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#38
Magical Realist Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 04:18 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Feb 22, 2018 03:40 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Do you really think there are more non-lethal shoot outs than all gun deaths or all guns crimes? More shoot outs than guns crimes?

LOL! Who knows? Who cares? I just know there are no stats on how many crimes are deterred by someone just presenting a gun. And the fact that you lie about that and change the subject shows you have nothing left to argue. So why don't you STFU and move on?

Of course you don't know or care..even about applying simple arithmetic.

Again, that you won't agree to admit you're wrong and apologize, if proven wrong, shows you don't really believe anyone is lying here. And you're too chick-shit to go look for yourself. Again, Obama told the CDC to make that report. What are you so afraid of?

If you don't like it, quit spewing complete garbage.

Still no stats. For shame..
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#39
Syne Offline
(Feb 22, 2018 04:37 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Still no stats. For shame..

Still can't read that Obama-funded CDC report. Lazy.
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#40
Leigha Offline
Here we go. Meanwhile, there were four deputies who were trained and armed on the scene, who cowered outside of the school in this latest shooting incident, and did nothing. But, let's keep blathering on about how this incident is strictly a gun control issue.

Certainly, this guy should never have been in possession of a gun, but honestly, he should have been arrested as soon as he broadcast on social media that he wanted to kill people. But, no one talks about that.

Many people dropped the ball, from people who knew this guy to the FBI to police...and we sit here political posturing.
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