Why gun violence research has been shut down for 20 years

[Syne]

Not the bulge, genius, actually drawing the gun (but not shooting anyone). And those stats are in the same Obama-funded CDC report you refuse to read.
And do you really think most people carry in their jacket, like Serpico or something?  
And what about CONCEALED carry do you not understand?
If someone can tell you're armed, it's not very well-concealed.

LOL! Show me the stats on gun nuts pulling out guns and stopping a crime without shooting. I've never ever heard of such a case because it never happens.

Already have. In that Obama-funded CDC report you refuse to read.
Do you really think criminal aren't scared of guns? Even though that's exactly why they use them?
Even if you won't read the CDC report, just think for yourself, for crying out loud.

In the US, more people are murdered with fists and feet than rifles or shotguns. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1953...apon-used/
Yeah, everyone with fists eventually finds something to punch and punch until dead.

An excellent example of what I see as American 'gun culture'. On one side you have people who think lethal weapons in the hands of idiots and psychos is a bad idea and on the other side you have people who love their guns - thinly veiled as "The right to bear arms.".
Edit...
Just repeating the link which fails in the quote...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1953...apon-used/
Compare murder victims by all firearms (10,000+) with Syne's apparent claim that rifles (firearms) contribute little (374) to the murder statistics - clearly the rifle isn't the firearm of choice for killing people.

Actually, gun rights people also believe we should keep weapons out of the hands of "idiots and psychos". You currently cannot sell a gun to anyone who has "been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution". That's federal law, and no one argues against it.

Yeah, handguns are overwhelmingly the murder weapon of choice. Who is calling for a handgun ban?

[Magical Realist]

In that Obama-funded CDC report you refuse to read.

Liar. There are no stats on how many crimes merely pulling out a gun deters. You're a moron for even suggesting such a thing. It doesn't happen. Or else very rarely. Actually pulling out a gun is a good way to get yourself shot by an already aimed and cocked gun.

[Syne]

In that Obama-funded CDC report you refuse to read.

Liar. There are no stats on how many crimes merely pulling out a gun deters. You're a moron for even suggesting such a thing. It doesn't happen. Or else very rarely. Actually pulling out a gun is a good way to get yourself shot by an already aimed and cocked gun.

Who said anything about drawing on an aimed gun, moron? And yes, that Obama-funded CDC report does estimate the number of self-defense uses of guns, which when compared to gun deaths, obviously includes significant incidents of not shooting someone.

But apparently you'll never know because you're too afraid to read it and face your blathering ignorance.

[Magical Realist]

Who said anything about drawing on an aimed gun, moron? And yes, that Obama-funded CDC report does estimate the number of self-defense uses of guns, which when compared to gun deaths, obviously includes significant incidents of not shooting someone.

LOL! You're talking about deterring crime by pulling out a gun. A crime usually involves a gun already pulled out and aimed and cocked. And no,,there are no stats on crime deterrence by the mere presentation of a gun. You're making shit up again and have nothing left to argue. I'm not dignifying your lies by responding to them further. Moving on..

[Syne]

Who said anything about drawing on an aimed gun, moron? And yes, that Obama-funded CDC report does estimate the number of self-defense uses of guns, which when compared to gun deaths, obviously includes significant incidents of not shooting someone.

LOL! You're talking about deterring crime by pulling out a gun. A crime usually involves a gun already pulled out and aimed and cocked. And no,,there are no stats on crime deterrence by the mere presentation of a gun. You're making shit up again and have nothing left to argue. I'm not dignifying your lies by responding to them further. Moving on..

I guess you've never heard of situational awareness, good Samaritan laws, or even the possibility of strong-arm crimes, rapes, etc. not involving guns. Quite ignorant.
Self-defense uses of guns, without shooting someone, is in that Obama-funded CDC report. And I won't enable your repeatedly demonstrated intellectual dishonesty by spoon-feeding you info you will, no doubt, just spit up like an infant.

[Magical Realist]

LOL! So now we're down to incidents where a gun is presented and where a crime without a gun is thus deterred. That's even a smaller subset of gun display preventing crime. Where's the stats on that one?

[Syne]

LOL! So now we're down to incidents where a gun is presented and where a crime without a gun is thus deterred. That's even a smaller subset of gun display preventing crime. Where's the stats on that one?

The stats don't specify the kind of weapon defended against, and again in the Obama-funded CDC report you repeatedly refuse to read. You just keep looking in vain for any arbitrary, out of context circumstance you foolishly think may support your ignorance. Just like your debunked psychologytoday article tried to do.

Educate yourself.

[Magical Realist]

The stats don't specify

That's what I thought. More made up shit to support whatever delusion you are trying to defend here..

[Syne]

Yeah, not specifying means they likely include such. You're the delusional ass-hat who refuses to read the CDC report Obama was so hep on funding.

[Magical Realist]

Yeah, not specifying means they likely include such. You're the delusional ass-hat who refuses to read the CDC report Obama was so hep on funding.

Then it includes crimes committed with guns, in which case a person who pulls out a gun is more likely to get shot themselves. You can't have it both ways liar.