Brain treats questions about beliefs like physical threats. Can we disarm it?

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(Jan 13, 2018 07:14 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:So by your own admission, you're not free "to go any public place". I don't care if you choose to limit your own freedom out of fear. That's your prerogative.

LOL! I freely choose not to go places that put my life in danger. That's not fear. That's common sense.

Yes, it is common sense to avoid life-threatening places, and your sense of what is a threat to your life is determined by your fear.
If not, how do you justify it? Do you think the neighborhood gang-banger thinks it's as life-threatening as you do? Why not? Because he doesn't fear death there to the extent you do.

Quote:So when's the last time you strolled thru Compton?

I freely go wherever I like, and I seem to invariably and immediately find the worst part of any new town I visit. I've even gone for walks in those parts of town...even unarmed and when I had long hair. I know how to handle those situations. Being armed would only be an added precaution, especially if aware that I could be a target.

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Quote:If you have to be careful where you go and what law-abiding citizens you associate with to feel safe in our society, you're definitely living in fear.

I don't have to be careful. I just go where I please and am quite peaceful about it. My rational choice of location spares me the inconvenience of fearing for my life or having to carry a gun to protect myself.

Avoiding locations to "spares me [you] the inconvenience of fearing for my [your] life" is literally avoiding out of fear. You can delude yourself into believing otherwise, but avoiding fearful situations is simply fearing fear itself.
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Quote:Yes, it is common sense to avoid life-threatening places, and your sense of what is a threat to your life is determined by your fear.

No it isn't. It's determined by reason and the rational purpose of staying alive. There is no fear about it. I don't fear for my life because I go places where my life isn't in danger.

Quote:I freely go wherever I like, and I seem to invariably and immediately find the worst part of any new town I visit.

Right..so you've never strolled thru Compton. Now remind me why I have to do that..

Quote:Avoiding locations to "spares me [you] the inconvenience of fearing for my [your] life" is literally avoiding out of fear. You can delude yourself into believing otherwise, but avoiding fearful situations is simply fearing fear itself.

No..it's called reason and operates on logic and common sense. Fear doesn't enter into the equation at all. There is no "fear of fear" guiding my actions. By my choices I eliminate having to fear for my life. And I also eliminate having to worry about shooting someone.
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#23
(Jan 13, 2018 08:13 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Yes, it is common sense to avoid life-threatening places, and your sense of what is a threat to your life is determined by your fear.

No it isn't. It's determined by reason and the rational purpose of staying alive. There is no fear about it.

Of course not. It's fear avoidance.

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Quote:Avoiding locations to "spares me [you] the inconvenience of fearing for my [your] life" is literally avoiding out of fear. You can delude yourself into believing otherwise, but avoiding fearful situations is simply fearing fear itself.

No..it's called reason and operates on logic and common sense. Fear doesn't enter into the equation at all.

Call it whatever makes you feel better. It's avoiding fearful stimuli.
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Quote:Call it whatever makes you feel better. It's avoiding fearful stimuli.

It's called avoiding dangerous situations and so not having fearful stimuli to begin with. And everybody does this all the time. It's common sense.
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#25
(Jan 13, 2018 07:14 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:So by your own admission, you're not free "to go any public place". I don't care if you choose to limit your own freedom out of fear. That's your prerogative.

LOL! I freely choose not to go places that put my life in danger. That's not fear. That's common sense.

So when's the last time you strolled thru Compton?

Quote:If you have to be careful where you go and what law-abiding citizens you associate with to feel safe in our society, you're definitely living in fear.

I don't have to be careful. I just go where I please and am quite peaceful about it. My rational choice of location spares me the inconvenience of fearing for my life or having to carry a gun to protect myself.

and if you need to carry a gun to protect yourself because of the nature of violence then you need to be the one who uses it first.

i do wonder that using the analogy of that concept that is used to justify firearms in public places is equally statistically valid if you were to remove all the guns from public places.
would there be brawls in the streets all the time instead of shootings ?
do shootings go down because more people are carrying guns ?

do criminals not rob people when they think they might be carrying a firearm ?

if that is the case then you need to advertise the fact your carrying a firearm and have it in a position ready to fire all the time so it would seem... a war zone.
ligitamising the public society as a war zone.
that is what it seems to be as an ideology.

why are people banned from open carry of machine guns in the usa ?
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#26
(Jan 13, 2018 08:49 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Call it whatever makes you feel better. It's avoiding fearful stimuli.

It's called avoiding dangerous situations and so not having fearful stimuli to begin with. And everybody does this all the time. It's common sense.

Rolleyes

(Jan 13, 2018 09:17 AM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: and if you need to carry a gun to protect yourself because of the nature of violence then you need to be the one who uses it first.

i do wonder that using the analogy of that concept that is used to justify firearms in public places is equally statistically valid if you were to remove all the guns from public places.
would there be brawls in the streets all the time instead of shootings ?
do shootings go down because more people are carrying guns ?

do criminals not rob people when they think they might be carrying a firearm ?

if that is the case then you need to advertise the fact your carrying a firearm and have it in a position ready to fire all the time so it would seem... a war zone.
ligitamising the public society as a war zone.
that is what it seems to be as an ideology.

why are people banned from open carry of machine guns in the usa ?

"Gun free zones" are often targets for mass shootings. Removing guns just means that the only people carrying are criminals.
In the UK and Australia, "glassing" is the term for using a pint glass or bottle to attack someone. It's prevalent enough that pubs have started using plastic or tempered glass in attempts to prevent it. And while gun violence in these countries declines, other forms of violence and murder make up the difference.
The fewest home burglaries happen where there is the highest percentage of armed households.

Advertising that you carry only gives the criminals the chance to get the drop on you. IOW, you lose any chance to act first. You can learn to draw quickly from concealed carry.
It's only hysterical leftists who think guns equal war zone. Guns use to be commonplace in the US without anyone giving them a second thought.

Machine guns were regulated in the 30's, when Capone and organized crime due to abolition was a real problem. But we can open carry semi-auto AR-15s in many states.
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