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Religion has no monopoly on transcendent experience

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Syne Offline
(Jul 21, 2017 04:45 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: *crickets*

Hmm...maybe he’s embarrassed because his epiphany was little blah or because Mr. Rational himself realized that it was an emotional experience.

Who knows? Big Grin
*Some* people have lives, deary. Rolleyes
(Jul 17, 2017 05:45 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Jul 15, 2017 08:38 PM)Syne Wrote:
(Jul 15, 2017 08:27 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: "In religion, transcendence refers to the aspect of a god's nature and power which is wholly independent of the material universe, beyond all physical laws."

Ya, not a fan.  Sorry.

Spiritual/religious as in the individual spiritual aspect/ideas of religion...not the theological stance.

Is this close to what you’re referring to?

What is Transcendence

The concept of transcendence is another widely misunderstood concept. As I always encourage you to do, reviewing and changing your definitions can be one of the most spiritually liberating things you can do in the realm of the mind. If your definitions are too small or skewed by your ego desires, fears, and so forth, then there's no space in your mind to appreciate the truth. ***

As I write this, I realize that transcendence is just a different term for the awakening path. It's just not a term that I use often precisely because of the confusion around it. People think they can avoid or ignore stuff through spirituality, and that's what they consider transcendence to be. More than a few people join monasteries or become single and abstinent to be "transcendent," but they are only running from society and relationships.

And in truth, they are really just trying to run away from themselves. Which is why your greatest teachers will often be the things and places that make you the most uncomfortable.***

No, it isn't simply about mindfulness, self-awareness... nor redefining things to suit your ego...which may be liberating, but not necessarily spiritual.
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Syne Offline
*crickets*

Hmm...maybe she’s embarrassed because her secular transcendence is little blah or because Ms. Emotional herself realized that it could be both an emotional and rational experience.

Who knows?   Big Grin
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Secular Sanity Offline
(Jul 23, 2017 08:41 PM)Syne Wrote: *crickets*

Hmm...maybe she’s embarrassed because her secular transcendence is little blah or because Ms. Emotional herself realized that it could be both an emotional and rational experience.

Who knows?   Big Grin

Maybe or maybe I'm simply comfortable with the silence.  Wink
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