How meaning can exist in the world

[Carol]

I am having a problem finding the post that Syne thought was off topic. Please, help me know what he saw off topic. In a subject about meaning, I can not figure out what I said that would be off topic unless it was something about culture. Does anything give any aspect of life meaning other than our cultures and individual judgments?

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Syne wrote:
Wow, so now you're plagiarizing my posts? https://www.scivillage.com/thread-3027-p...ml#pid8084 How pathetic.

What does that have to do with metaphysics or philosophy and how meaning can exist in the world?

[Syne]

I am having a problem finding the post that Syne thought was off topic.  Please, help me know what he saw off topic.   In a subject about meaning, I can not figure out what I said that would be off topic unless it was something about culture.  Does anything give any aspect of life meaning other than our cultures and individual judgments?

You're the only one talking about being off-topic in this thread, deary.

Syne wrote:
Wow, so now you're plagiarizing my posts? https://www.scivillage.com/thread-3027-p...ml#pid8084 How pathetic.

What does that have to do with metaphysics or philosophy and how meaning can exist in the world?

Absolutely nothing, but since you replied to the same off-topic SS post I did, I would think you'd understand.

[Carol]

I am having a problem finding the post that Syne thought was off topic.  Please, help me know what he saw off topic.   In a subject about meaning, I can not figure out what I said that would be off topic unless it was something about culture.  Does anything give any aspect of life meaning other than our cultures and individual judgments?

You're the only one talking about being off-topic in this thread, deary.

Syne wrote:
Wow, so now you're plagiarizing my posts? https://www.scivillage.com/thread-3027-p...ml#pid8084 How pathetic.

What does that have to do with metaphysics or philosophy and how meaning can exist in the world?

Absolutely nothing, but since you replied to the same off-topic SS post I did, I would think you'd understand.

Understand what your hypocritical behavior of hurting others with your fault-finding, disrespect, and negative points, while giving yourself permission to do as you please?      I perceive your behavior as destructive, and therefore, "the meaning" you are giving being here is a negative, destructive one.  It is a matter of culture.  If a forum is a safe and enjoyable place to be, or if it causes negative feelings that drive people away, leaving only a small in-crowd of disrespectful and abusive people depends on how people treat each other.  I do not understand tolerance of harmful behavior, because it is immoral and destructive,  and is not the meaning of freedom of speech, which is moral (cause and effect) and the freedom to reason.  

Know for every bad point you give me, you will receive one.  Then we can judge if the behavior is constructive and helpful or destructive and hurtful and the meaning of what we are manifesting.

[Magical Realist]

Know for every bad point you give me, you will receive one. Then we can judge if the behavior is constructive and helpful or destructive and hurtful and the meaning of what we are manifesting.

Syne is a toxic troll who is undermining the free and respectful atmosphere of this forum. He regularly has demoted my reputation simply for not responding anymore to him. He also casts aspersions and insinuations about me based on my sexual orientation. He basically drove away Leigha with a horrible personal attack about her avatar choice. If there was ever a reason for a group dying away, he will be it. For every bad point he gives out, I will reverse it with a good point.

[Syne]

Understand what your hypocritical behavior of hurting others with your fault-finding, disrespect, and negative points, while giving yourself permission to do as you please?      I perceive your behavior as destructive, and therefore, "the meaning" you are giving being here is a negative, destructive one.  It is a matter of culture.  If a forum is a safe and enjoyable place to be, or if it causes negative feelings that drive people away, leaving only a small in-crowd of disrespectful and abusive people depends on how people treat each other.  I do not understand tolerance of harmful behavior, because it is immoral and destructive,  and is not the meaning of freedom of speech, which is moral (cause and effect) and the freedom to reason.  

Know for every bad point you give me, you will receive one.  Then we can judge if the behavior is constructive and helpful or destructive and hurtful and the meaning of what we are manifesting.

I'm not the one admonishing people about off-topic posts here...while posting off-topic. You are the hypocrite doing that. I rated your post for hypocrisy, not off-topic posting. I am not responsible for your subjective perceptions. Is this forum a "safe space"? I never saw that notice anywhere. It's called freedom of speech, deary. If you cannot deal with the opinions of others, perhaps you should refrain from reading forums...since forums rely on free speech. "Safe spaces" are the opposite of free speech. Either you believe in one or the other. There is no half-free speech.

If you really want to play tit for tat with the post ratings, you'll be in negative reputation before I will. So go right ahead. It will just prove my point that reputation systems are not good moderation tools and open to abuse. Or you could report abusive ratings to the admin...or just not take them so personally.

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Know for every bad point you give me, you will receive one.  Then we can judge if the behavior is constructive and helpful or destructive and hurtful and the meaning of what we are manifesting.

Syne is a toxic troll who is undermining the free and respectful atmosphere of this forum. He regularly has demoted my reputation simply for not responding anymore to him. He also casts aspersions and insinuations about me based on my sexual orientation. He basically drove away Wegs with a horrible personal attack about her avatar choice. If there was ever a reason for a group dying away, he will be it. For every bad point he gives out, I will reverse it with a good point.

That's a lie, and you know it. Anyone can see the post that garnered the rating to see for themselves that you're lying, so I guess you're only relying on their lazy confirmation bias to pull off this lie. And it's laughable that you think I have the power to undermine your freedom here.

Avatar choice?! What are you taking about? Show me. Prove that this isn't just another lie.

My last interaction with Leigha/wegs was perfectly cordial.

[Magical Realist]

Avatar choice?! What are you taking about? Show me. Prove that this isn't just another lie.

My last interaction with Leigha/wegs was perfectly cordial.

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Sorry. I take that back. It was Secular Sanity in the closed Site Feedback thread when she removed her own thread.

[Syne]

Avatar choice?! What are you taking about? Show me. Prove that this isn't just another lie.

My last interaction with Leigha/wegs was perfectly cordial.

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Sorry. I take that back. It was Secular Sanity in the closed Site Feedback thread when she removed her own thread.

I accept your apology, MR. That earns some respect.

[Secular Sanity]

Sorry. I take that back. It was Secular Sanity in the closed Site Feedback thread when she removed her own thread.

That was October 12th.  She's made several contributions since then.  Like most of us, wegs comes and goes as she pleases.

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If you really want to play tit for tat with the post ratings, you'll be in negative reputation before I will. So go right ahead. It will just prove my point that reputation systems are not good moderation tools and open to abuse. Or you could report abusive ratings to the admin...or just not take them so personally.

Been there, done that.  

Back in the day, before it was disabled...

mine was loaded with the word "CUNT".  I think "whisky dick" was one of my better ones.

I agree. It's not a good moderation tool.  Why are you still using it then, Syne, just to prove a point?

[Syne]

It will just prove my point that reputation systems are not good moderation tools and open to abuse.

I agree. It's not a good moderation tool.  Why are you still using it then, Syne, just to prove a point?

I'm using it strictly as a post rating system, which is what they are used for everywhere else. People here seem to take that as an attack on them personally for some odd reason. Go figure.

Most people should realize that if I want to attack them, I do it in posts...where they have an honest chance to respond.

[Carol]

If you really want to play tit for tat with the post ratings, you'll be in negative reputation before I will. So go right ahead. It will just prove my point that reputation systems are not good moderation tools and open to abuse. Or you could report abusive ratings to the admin...or just not take them so personally.

Well as we should know, humans dominate the world because of their ability to work together. However, they don't always work together well. All members of the forum get to choose the reality manifested here.

Does anyone disagree that Syne is disrespectful, abusive and a bully? My 9-year grandson told me what cyber bullying is and I don't like what is possible if we do not stand against it.

Most humans like to believe good always wins out over evil. Why? Because if it does not, sooner or later all is destroyed. In a forum such as this one, the good can be destroyed, one person at a time, and that might not seem to matter, but sooner or later it will. I will let you decide if you want to accept disrespect, abuse, and bullying or not. If you can not pull together and stop it, I will be gone.

I may regret my stand, as I choose to stand against cyber bully and the meanness that is contaminating the world, because people think it doesn't matter and have this meanness and destructive behavior confused with freedom of speech. We can allow all to be destroyed or we can stand for what we believe ought to be. And as Syne pointed out this has to be a we, because he surely win if I stand alone. Hello folks, you all can't do better without religion and fear of a god? Pay attention to cause and effect and take a stand, and take action. I am giving Syne negative points for cyber bulling, for all the children who need a better world.

I do not stand completely alone, even though I do not the support of a church. I stand with Socrates and Patrick Henry who both stood for justice and liberty, and my grandmother who defended democracy in the classroom as a teacher. I may lose the right to post here, but I believe virtue is on my side, and life is meaningless if I do not stand for what I believe is right.

So what do you say? What is the most important, your fun or justice and liberty? This a question our whole nation needs to ask. Personally, I do not understand why people we think cyber bullying is fun for the people you want to attract?

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Know for every bad point you give me, you will receive one.  Then we can judge if the behavior is constructive and helpful or destructive and hurtful and the meaning of what we are manifesting.

Syne is a toxic troll who is undermining the free and respectful atmosphere of this forum. He regularly has demoted my reputation simply for not responding anymore to him. He also casts aspersions and insinuations about me based on my sexual orientation. He basically drove away Leigha with a horrible personal attack about her avatar choice. If there was ever a reason for a group dying away, he will be it. For every bad point he gives out, I will reverse it with a good point.

Were you alone in this?  Something is very wrong if you can not stand together against one lone troll.

Secular Sanity, I read the post you linked to. Do you think you were being respectful and considerate? What do you think your merits were in that post?

Wow, I am getting why Jesus said he didn't come to bring peace, and what he has in common with Socrates who perhaps was one of the most hated men in the world. I don't want to make enemies with anyone. Especially not when my ability to post here is threatened. But if we are blind to harming others and our own part of creating a hurtful world, then the pain is spread and passed on for generations. At a time when overpopulation is turning into wars around the world, and we are playing this destructive game with the potential for nuclear war, perhaps it is a good idea to follow these 3 simple rules.

1. We respect everyone.
2. We protect the dignity of others.
3. We do everything with integrity.