Carney sacrificing Canada's sovereignty to the EU? (DIY emotion over reason)

[Syne]

Again, new pipelines take time to build, with a fair more litigious and regulated environment than the 70s... even if you still have those kind of skills and manpower available.

No one doubts how much oil Canada has. But even moving it from province to province requires US pipelines right now.

But Carney is a powerful wizard. His magical powers will thwart the obstacles of the past that have impeded capitalizing on Canada's many raw resources. This will take mere months, not years or decades of detailed environmental evaluation and litigation and intricate negotiations.

LOL! That might be the sharpest sarcasm I've ever heard from you.

[C C]

If the theater of this currently imaginary or not yet invented "EU associate membership" is excluded (which seems purely intended to rankle Trump), then there's nothing actually new here that wasn't already planned. It's like a neighborhood resident who has visibly had town assessors and company contractors visit his property for months announcing to everyone that he suddenly decided to have an elaborate pool built in his backyard after a quarrel with a next-door rival.

And again, the trade relationship with the EU ought to continue in the context of CETA (just enhanced). Canada doesn't really want Brussels bossing them around trade wise -- the EEA countries have no choice because they're small. But even Iceland recently rejected EU membership. They don't want any more Brussels domination than what they're already dealing with in their narrow commercial affiliation with that entity.

[Zinjanthropos]

Been around for long time. I can take sarcasm, insults, whatever suits the purpose. I like the verbal irony and wit involved. Least now I know where you guys are coming from. I kind of been enjoying having an intelligent Prime Minister for a change. Better than the boot licking Opposition leader. I think once Canada gets through the rough times we’ll be much better off. So….

Wouldn’t want Michigan to freeze now would we? I know all about how hard is to get approvals for pipelines. I was there when Gateway got axed. A lot of spadework went into that, everything lined up but BC didn’t want the tankers. I was set to make a killing but as luck would have it, Justin caved. Speaking of Michigan, was also there in 2010 (Kalamazoo) when there was a little accident, washing ducks with Enbridge CEO Daniels. But don’t worry my American friends, we won’t let you freeze or stop bringing you the oil and gas you need. Although I must admit it was close to pipeline shutdown reality when Michigan Governor Whitmer, a Democrat, was raising a big stink to gain votes and making demands on us.

[C C]

[...] Least now I know where you guys are coming from. [...] I kind of been enjoying having an intelligent Prime Minister for a change.

Don't want anything negative to happen to Canada. That's really the whole point. And it actually is adept showmanship on Carney's part to receive the credit. Just as the Trans Mountain Expansion (below) was completed before he was in office. He only became PM last year and yet he's making endeavors that were already in the oven look as if they were recent initiatives in response to Trump arrogance. (Prior to that, the mainstream in Canada or anywhere else never expected Trump to truly win a second term, or years before prognosticated or expected genuine heavy-handed tariff action in the future. Pipeline desires and plans were in the works due to traditional stimuli.) 

Pipelines: In the 21st century, pipelines in Canada became politicized, especially during the premiership of Justin Trudeau, whose government's environmental policies proved unpopular in Alberta. While some pipeline projects were cancelled because of environmental concerns, legal challenges, market conditions, and Indigenous rights issues, the Trans Mountain Expansion was completed in 2024 after the federal government purchased the project in 2018.

But don’t worry my American friends, we won’t let you freeze or stop bringing you the oil and gas you need. Although I must admit it was close to pipeline shutdown reality when Michigan Governor Whitmer, a Democrat, was raising a big stink to gain votes and making demands on us.

What Americans have to worry about is people hanging on to their money instead of investing it, due to Trump's ever-changing arbitrary rules and unpredictable activity in the overall tariff war. That lack of confidence was also a prelude to the Great Depression.

[Zinjanthropos]

What Americans have to worry about is people hanging on to their money instead of investing it, due to Trump's ever-changing arbitrary rules and unpredictable activity in the overall tariff war.

Sense that American money is coming into Canada. Whatever it is that Trump is doing seems to be making us attractive to other countries plus it’s provided us with a much needed kick in the ass. America not only kid on the block when it comes to trading partners. Waiting for Dennis Rodman to be named US Ambassador to North Korea.

[Syne]

America has enough oil and gas of its own. We'll be fine. Hope you're ready for a prolonged period of readjustment to new markets, where your economy will dip worse than it already is. Pivoting away from the world's superpower and largest market is a bold strategy, Cotton.

If it weren't for TDS, Canada could simply play ball and wait it out for the next Democrat president. I think they'd fair better doing that, but I don't live there. There might also be some smidgen of masculine Canadian pride (mostly from Alberta) at play. Canada still seems to be talking big for a country that can't even protect itself. Kind of like UK's Burnham, who recently said, "national security can't come at the expense of social security." Might want the wherewithal to secure your nation.

[Syne]

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/zMPF9TTPeq0

[C C]

Canada must consider even unlikely threats — including an American invasion
https://theconversation.com/canada-must-...ion-292866

EXCERPTS: Prime Minister Mark Carney says he has considered the possibility of American military action against Canada, and that the Canadian Armed Forces had examined potential responses.

Such a scenario remains extraordinarily unlikely, but that’s precisely why it belongs in contingency planning. Serious governments do not dismiss low-probability, high-consequence risks simply because they appear remote. The first responsibility of the prime minister of Canada, as head of government, is to protect Canadians...

[...] First, contingency planning often yields benefits beyond the specific scenario being examined. [...] A future threat to Canada may have little resemblance to a hypothetical attack by the United States, yet the lessons learned from examining an unexpected attack could inform responses to other contingencies, including missile, cyber or hybrid threats that exploit North America’s geography.

[...] Second, Canada has a long history of planning for unlikely but consequential scenarios. ... Canada also has experience failing to plan. The Fenian raids committed by the Fenian Brotherhood (an Irish American organization determined to force the U.K. to withdraw from Ireland) conducted armed incursions into Canada, targeting military fortifications in 1866, 1870 and 1871. The Canadian militia were poorly prepared for such attacks.

[...] Third, preparing for a contingency does not make it more likely. Failure to consider its consequences, however, can leave governments scrambling in a crisis. ... History suggests that political leaders’ statements should not be dismissed outright simply because they appear improbable. Some of U.S. President Donald Trump’s threats, for example, have come to fruition.
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So unlike Biden's open borders, at least the situation has prompted Carney to remember that it is Canadians themselves that he is supposed to protect. Sometimes it seems like half the administrators of the West are no longer aware of that. Of course, that doesn't absolutely exclude the possibility of anything not associated with Trump trickling in or "invading" with minimal challenge.