Apr 8, 2026 05:22 AM
Backtracking to the second part of the OP just briefly...
Yah, our representation or private manifestation of an external tunnel would indeed be black or dark. But there are other regions of the EM spectrum passing through what seems to be a "dark space" to us, that the eyes can't detect. We can see things in the visible-light brand of darkness when wearing infrared googles. So the blackness or the darkness isn't a physical absence of all waves, it's just a mental depiction for us resulting from our photoreceptors lacking the capacity to be stimulated by radio waves, ultraviolet, etc.
Yah, the sensory information has to go beyond the eye and reach the brain to be transformed into illumination and a "showing" and alteration of whatever. The mindless or non-conscious way that things exist outside of neural processes really isn't even darkness and silence, since black is usually extended (a featureless image). One could probably zero in on a phenomenal black pixel and it would acquire dimension. Absence of everything (what pertains to the usual non-consciousness of matter) actually wouldn't even entail a manifestation of blankness. That's still "something" for a brain, that it uses to represent with, and wouldn't apply to the general, mindless be-ing of a physical universe. The latter would lack an extended presentation of itself even as darkness (and silence).
(Apr 8, 2026 01:24 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [...] And yet I see darkness quite clearly. If I drive up to a store and the lights are out, I know it is closed because I see it is dark inside. If I look into a deep hole in the ground, I can see the darkness inside. Even when I enter a completely dark space, I can see the blackness in front of me. It is a distinctive color telling me it is dark. I can see shadows and silhouettes and the clear night sky and even black holes. [...] We can see the non-physical absence of light just as clearly and unmistakeably as we can see its physical presence because of the relational property of contrast between the two.
Yah, our representation or private manifestation of an external tunnel would indeed be black or dark. But there are other regions of the EM spectrum passing through what seems to be a "dark space" to us, that the eyes can't detect. We can see things in the visible-light brand of darkness when wearing infrared googles. So the blackness or the darkness isn't a physical absence of all waves, it's just a mental depiction for us resulting from our photoreceptors lacking the capacity to be stimulated by radio waves, ultraviolet, etc.
Quote:So to me this suggests a fundamental error about what it means to see. Seeing is not just light entering the eye. It is the phenomenal visibility of any datum change whatsoever.
Yah, the sensory information has to go beyond the eye and reach the brain to be transformed into illumination and a "showing" and alteration of whatever. The mindless or non-conscious way that things exist outside of neural processes really isn't even darkness and silence, since black is usually extended (a featureless image). One could probably zero in on a phenomenal black pixel and it would acquire dimension. Absence of everything (what pertains to the usual non-consciousness of matter) actually wouldn't even entail a manifestation of blankness. That's still "something" for a brain, that it uses to represent with, and wouldn't apply to the general, mindless be-ing of a physical universe. The latter would lack an extended presentation of itself even as darkness (and silence).
