COVID vaccine heart damage

[Magical Realist]

Everybody was against anti-vaxxers until after COVID, which if you didn't notice was gotten rid of by a vaccine. Now MAGA is crying and whining that all vaccines are bad because they don't like being told they have to do anything. Hey, let's all bring back polio!

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[Syne]

How relative risk vs absolute risk is weaponized to fearmonger: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1688852822316570

[confused2]

More than 44 million people in the UK were estimated to have had the virus between April 2020 and February 2022, out of a total population of 70 million .. so about 60% actually got covid. In the test quoted by Bennett only 0.74% got covid without the vaccine (0.04% with the vaccine) .. the vaccine reducing the rate of infection by a factor of 18. If the same factor of 18 applied in the wild the number of infections might have been reduced from 44 million to 2.4 million or even eliminated the epidemic altogether .. if (and only if) enough people were vaccinated to halt the spread.

So is Bennett being willfully stupid or is she attempting to deceive the more gullible members of the population? Why?

[Syne]

You're still falling prey to using relative risk numbers to do the absolute population math. 9_9

[confused2]

You're still falling prey to using relative risk numbers to do the absolute population math. 9_9

It turns out to be a bit of an IQ test and the result is .. predictable.
If the test had shown 0.74% got covid without the vax and NONE got it with .. she'd claim a 0.74% gain .. does that make sense to you? Subtract .74% from the 60% that actually got covid? You think that?

[Syne]

It is an IQ test, and you've obviously failed.
The difference isn't a factor of 18. It's literally 0.7% because that's the difference in the total infected.
That's the difference between 44 million infected and 43,692,000 infected, which is 308,000.

[confused2]

I edited the question to..
"If the test had shown 0.74% got covid without the vax and NONE got it with"
At your level of IQ you would still predict over 43 million infected with a vaccine that is 100% effective .. this is the problem.

[Syne]

Quit sperging, clown.

It's intellectually dishonest to argue a strawman while pretending to criticize the original claim.

[confused2]

Quit sperging, clown.

It's intellectually dishonest to argue a strawman while pretending to criticize the original claim.

Sorry, I was trying to keep it conceptually simple .. obviously failed. Now I'm going to try using multiplication (and division)
She claims the chances of infection are 0.04%. << MY MISTAKE .. see end
Apply that to a population of 340 million and she predicts 136,000 infections .. is that what you think happened? I can't know, just asking.

Corrected.. she claims the chances of infection are 0.04% +0.74% =0.78%
Apply that to a population of 340 million and she predicts about 2.6 million infections .. is that what you think happened? I can't know, just asking.
AI..
"The United States recorded an estimated 1.3 to 1.4 million excess deaths during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic from March 2020 through May 2023. Over 90% of these excess deaths were directly attributed to the virus, while the remainder resulted from pandemic-related disruptions to healthcare.."

So about 50% of people with covid died? 50% chance of survival?

[Syne]

You're still sperging, clown.
You obviously don't understand how to apply math to real-world situations.
0.78% is not the percent of infected in the total population. It's the infected in a sample of 21,700, as clearly shown in that FB video.

As of early 2026, data indicates that there were over 103 million to 111 million reported cases of COVID-19 in the United States since the pandemic began in January 2020.

Total Confirmed Cases: Approximately 103.4 to 103.8 million cases were reported by March 2023.
Total Deaths: Over 1.1 million deaths were reported.
Estimated Impact: By late 2022, serosurvey estimates suggested over 94% of Americans had been infected at least once.
- gemini

And that doesn't even begin to address you conflating infections with deaths (whether from Covid or not).

Sperging.
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