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#21
Magical Realist Online
No you didn't. You said this:

Quote:Well, there's no accounting for how homosexual sex is depicted in movies.

I wasn't talking about that, yet you bring it up as somehow making my knowledge of how sex is depicted in movies limiting. It isn't. I share in all the knowledge about what sex is regardless of my orientation. I understand heterosexuality as well as homosexuality. And I don't have to commit a crime to make moral judgments about criminals.
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#22
Syne Offline
If you have no personal experience with heterosexual sex, how would you know how well/poorly it is depicted?
Just like I can't tell how faithfully gay sex is depicted. Now, maybe you had some experimentation with heterosexual sex, but presumably not enough to have any positive experiences.

Having experience with heterosexual sex, I don't find the depictions in movies terribly disparate from real life. Likely because, as a man, I largely lead the interaction, so I am responsible for what I make of it. Now, there's probably plenty of heterosexual men who don't realize that.. or don't have the stamina/will power to make it happen. But that doesn't mean the movie depictions are completely unrealistic.
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#23
Magical Realist Online
Quote:If you have no personal experience with heterosexual sex, how would you know how well/poorly it is depicted?

I've already given you 3 analogies for how. You don't need to be an addict to understand how drug addiction is depicted. Nor crime. Nor soldiers in battle. Nor any other type of human behavior. We are all exposed to the ins and outs of sex and romantic love from childhood. We see it in our friends and siblings and parents. And we read about it in novels and in movies. Thru all that knowledge and empathy I get to judge whether it is depicted accurately or not. You could do the same with LGBT sex and romance too if you had exposure to it in real life and books and film. But lacking the capacity for empathy and being homophobic, you probably wouldn't be able to understand it well enough.
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#24
Syne Offline
Wait... you had "exposure to" heterosexual sex "in real life"? Voyeurism? Again, if you were "exposed to the ins and outs of sex... from childhood," perhaps that explains your current aversion.

How are depictions from books and movies a good way to judge depictions in movies? Just adding a different fictional medium? And if they are, how can movie depictions be both bad [b]AND[/u] a basis for your understanding? That would imply they were reliable depictions to start with.

Same goes for drug addiction, crime, battle, etc.. Unless you've experienced any of these personally, you're just assuming they're adequately depicted in entertainment. Maybe some are, but I can't personally verify that. If you want to call assumptions and imagination "empathy," I guess you're right, but that seems some serious gymnastics with the English language.

And see, you still can't help but be insulting... even when I give you the benefit of the doubt. You still can't help but be hateful and call people unempathetic, homophobic, etc.. So quit whining about getting back what you dish out.
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#25
Magical Realist Online
Quote:How are depictions from books and movies a good way to judge depictions in movies?

Nonfiction books and documentaries and magazine articles and people's experiences provide more than enough information about how sex really is. Not to mention the many years I had sex myself. How could one NOT know about sex given all that?

Quote:Wait... you had "exposure to" heterosexual sex "in real life"? Voyeurism? Again, if you were "exposed to the ins and outs of sex... from childhood," perhaps that explains your current aversion.

As kids and teens we are all exposed to sex and romantic love in our culture. It is literally everywhere, and there were and are no lack of resources for curious kids to find out all about it. Unless you were raised in a monastery, which would certainly explain why you're so screwed up on this topic.

Quote:Same goes for drug addiction, crime, battle, etc.. Unless you've experienced any of these personally, you're just assuming they're adequately depicted in entertainment. Maybe some are, but I can't personally verify that. If you want to call assumptions and imagination "empathy," I guess you're right, but that seems some serious gymnastics with the English language.

There are really good critically acclaimed movies depicting these human behaviors to the public. There are also tons of documentaries and non-fictional accounts of such freely available everywhere. And then there is the tried and true power of human empathy, allowing us to genuinely understand the experiences of others. The fact that you can't grasp empathy as anything more than "assumptions and imagination" confirms your totally lack of that human ability. You really are a sociopath. I pity you, but not much. Even sociopaths can be respectful and well-mannered.

Quote:And see, you still can't help but be insulting.

You expose your own vile hatred for LGBT with everything you post on this topic. I'm just pointing it out for all to see here. Like twisting this whole OP into some offtopic attack on me and my sexuality. If you don't want to be criticized, quit attacking other people for no reason. I'm not here to be your therapeutic punching bag. Get help.
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