Research Why aren't the Japanese having sex? (Too many hikikomori?)

[Magical Realist]

No you didn't. You said this:

Well, there's no accounting for how homosexual sex is depicted in movies.

I wasn't talking about that, yet you bring it up as somehow making my knowledge of how sex is depicted in movies limiting. It isn't. I share in all the knowledge about what sex is regardless of my orientation. I understand heterosexuality as well as homosexuality. And I don't have to commit a crime to make moral judgments about criminals.

[Syne]

If you have no personal experience with heterosexual sex, how would you know how well/poorly it is depicted?
Just like I can't tell how faithfully gay sex is depicted. Now, maybe you had some experimentation with heterosexual sex, but presumably not enough to have any positive experiences.

Having experience with heterosexual sex, I don't find the depictions in movies terribly disparate from real life. Likely because, as a man, I largely lead the interaction, so I am responsible for what I make of it. Now, there's probably plenty of heterosexual men who don't realize that.. or don't have the stamina/will power to make it happen. But that doesn't mean the movie depictions are completely unrealistic.

[Magical Realist]

If you have no personal experience with heterosexual sex, how would you know how well/poorly it is depicted?

I've already given you 3 analogies for how. You don't need to be an addict to understand how drug addiction is depicted. Nor crime. Nor soldiers in battle. Nor any other type of human behavior. We are all exposed to the ins and outs of sex and romantic love from childhood. We see it in our friends and siblings and parents. And we read about it in novels and in movies. Thru all that knowledge and empathy I get to judge whether it is depicted accurately or not. You could do the same with LGBT sex and romance too if you had exposure to it in real life and books and film. But lacking the capacity for empathy and being homophobic, you probably wouldn't be able to understand it well enough.

[Syne]

Wait... you had "exposure to" heterosexual sex "in real life"? Voyeurism? Again, if you were "exposed to the ins and outs of sex... from childhood," perhaps that explains your current aversion.

How are depictions from books and movies a good way to judge depictions in movies? Just adding a different fictional medium? And if they are, how can movie depictions be both bad [b]AND[/u] a basis for your understanding? That would imply they were reliable depictions to start with.

Same goes for drug addiction, crime, battle, etc.. Unless you've experienced any of these personally, you're just assuming they're adequately depicted in entertainment. Maybe some are, but I can't personally verify that. If you want to call assumptions and imagination "empathy," I guess you're right, but that seems some serious gymnastics with the English language.

And see, you still can't help but be insulting... even when I give you the benefit of the doubt. You still can't help but be hateful and call people unempathetic, homophobic, etc.. So quit whining about getting back what you dish out.

[Magical Realist]

How are depictions from books and movies a good way to judge depictions in movies?

Nonfiction books and documentaries and magazine articles and people's experiences provide more than enough information about how sex really is. Not to mention the many years I had sex myself. How could one NOT know about sex given all that?

Wait... you had "exposure to" heterosexual sex "in real life"? Voyeurism? Again, if you were "exposed to the ins and outs of sex... from childhood," perhaps that explains your current aversion.

As kids and teens we are all exposed to sex and romantic love in our culture. It is literally everywhere, and there were and are no lack of resources for curious kids to find out all about it. Unless you were raised in a monastery, which would certainly explain why you're so screwed up on this topic.

Same goes for drug addiction, crime, battle, etc.. Unless you've experienced any of these personally, you're just assuming they're adequately depicted in entertainment. Maybe some are, but I can't personally verify that. If you want to call assumptions and imagination "empathy," I guess you're right, but that seems some serious gymnastics with the English language.

There are really good critically acclaimed movies depicting these human behaviors to the public. There are also tons of documentaries and non-fictional accounts of such freely available everywhere. And then there is the tried and true power of human empathy, allowing us to genuinely understand the experiences of others. The fact that you can't grasp empathy as anything more than "assumptions and imagination" confirms your totally lack of that human ability. You really are a sociopath. I pity you, but not much. Even sociopaths can be respectful and well-mannered.

And see, you still can't help but be insulting.

You expose your own vile hatred for LGBT with everything you post on this topic. I'm just pointing it out for all to see here. Like twisting this whole OP into some offtopic attack on me and my sexuality. If you don't want to be criticized, quit attacking other people for no reason. I'm not here to be your therapeutic punching bag. Get help.

[Syne]

So... you had heterosexual sex? @_@
Or do you think the sex between men and women is exactly the same as between two men?
"Nonfiction books and documentaries and magazine articles"? What, Playboy and Cosmo articles and porn? I'm not aware of any that give a blow by blow of sex, comparable to movie depictions... other than porn... which most people agree is not an accurate depiction.

I certainly didn't have access to depictions of sex as a child. Not a monastery, just basic age-appropriate movie ratings and responsible adults. Romantic love is not synonymous with sex.

See, you claim I'm the one "screwed up"... insulting again... but you're the asexual whose never been in love and thinks movies are a bad depiction of sex.

There are also critically acclaimed movies depicting alien encounters, exorcisms, etc., but they don't mean we know what those things would actually be like. We can certainly accept such things as accurate, but we cannot verify that for ourselves without personal experience. There are limits to what empathy can accomplish. It is not a superpower that magically imbues you with revealed understanding. You may think so, but you can't even understand most of what I tell you, much less empathize with my experience.

You're a pathetic excuse for a human, who can't bear physical intimacy and has never known romantic love. That's so sad. And to compensate for that, you have to believe you're better than others and continually call them unempathetic and sociopaths, when it's so clear that these are projection. Sociopaths can't love because they actually lack empathy, and you have never found love... so objectively, you're the sociopath. Your supposed empathy is completely imagined, which is why you can't fathom that someone would find movie sex a fair depiction. Then you whine like a child because your own hatred is mirrored back to you. You reap what you sow.

You're an insecure paranoid. You imagine slights and insults where none exists, only to justify you initiating them. None of my posts were ever an attack on you or your orientation. I've only attacked you, as a vile person, in response to direct insults from you. You've brought it all upon yourself, but you lack even the minimum self-awareness to see this simple fact.


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[Magical Realist]

Oh my..looks like I touched a sensitive chord. How many ways can you put down someone and grind them into the dirt for simply saying they view movies as glorifying sex and romance too much? Methinks there's a lot of baggage to unload here. Seek professional help immediately. Here's a group for you to check out when you aren't trying to rationalize all the pent-up contempt you have for ordinary well-rounded and happy people.

https://swarthmorephoenix.com/2013/03/20...ociopaths/

[Syne]

Yes, deflect from your obvious admitted pathology, where you can't stand physical or emotional intimacy... so much so that you've never been in love. Imagine, a whole life without ever knowing romantic love. Nothing well-rounded about that kind of life. And then imagine the gall it would take to think you could lecture people who have experienced love and healthy physical relationships. The delusion is apparently boundless. The deep seated need to belittle others to compensate for your failings as a basic human being, unable to connect with others in the most basic and deep ways. Having to fill that emptiness with nonfiction, documentaries, etc. believing those give you any idea of the reality.

But go ahead, keep heaping your vile on me. I can take it, like I have for years now, because unlike you, I'm actually a well-rounded person, who has normal physical/emotional relationships with others, many hobbies, goals, and a fulfilling life. Unlike you, I never whine about it, I just dish it back and prove what a hypocrite you are. Keep it coming.

[Magical Realist]

LOL Translation: "I'm normal I tell you! See how normal I'm acting you pathetic whining loner! I'M the well-rounded one here! If there was a competition I'd be the most normal person of all! Why I have hobbies and goals and a SO fulfilling life! Some nights I even get laid! Like a REAL normal man! I MUST be normal! Keep' em coming! I can handle it! I'm really tough! See how tough I am you weak miserable loser? Aren't you impressed with me? Tell me I'm normal! SAY IT! "

Meh...zzzzzzzzzz...

[Syne]

If only you knew. 9_9

If I needed validation, this is the last place I'd look. But someone is very desperate to keep deflecting.