Trump and Netanyahu Announce 20-Point Gaza Peace Plan

[Syne]

Somehow many people don't seem to notice all the bombs, rockets, and bullets Hamas/Gaza/Palestine has sent the other way for decades.
For those people, Hamas propaganda is very effective. Ignorance of history....

[Zinjanthropos]

The only 20 points that matters to Hamas are at the end of bombs, bullets and missiles.

If Hamas' mission is to make people hate Israel .. don't the bombs, bullets and missiles work in their favour?

Isn’t that what I said? Those pointy things matter most, any way you look at it.

[stryder]

Somehow many people don't seem to notice all the bombs, rockets, and bullets Hamas/Gaza/Palestine has sent the other way for decades.
For those people, Hamas propaganda is very effective. Ignorance of history....

Talk about rose tinted specs.

The Israelis have kept bulldozing places, erecting walls and taking over territory over the years. The world stood by and let it happen because of not wanting to be labelled anti-semite, or perhaps they turned a blind eye due to the history of the holocaust.

The Reality however is that history has moved on, new chapters have been written, the current ones prove the right wing Israeli's to be as bad as nazi's.

That doesn't of course mean that people don't see Hamas for being terror related, however their inception has been down to the continued push and pull effect of different religions vying for dominance in that region. That regions entire history has always been fighting, if it's not Jews, or Muslims it would of been the Christians back in the day, or a myriad of other contenders.

It would be nice if one day people would wake up and realise that all religion is, is horseshit. It's been spread for years and sprouted near enough every war on the planet, every conquest, every destruction of nation. We'd be better off without it.

[Zinjanthropos]

After reading all comments I couldn't get these lyrics out of my head. From 'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance'. I like Donald and perhaps this just seems eerily similar to some things going on. I substituted Hamas for Liberty in these lyrics. Apologies to Gene Pitney....RIP.

From out of the east a stranger came,
A law book in his hand, a man.
The kind of a man the west would need
To tame a troubled land;
Cause the point of a gun was the only law
That liberty understood.
When it came to shootin' straight and fast,
He was mighty good.

[Syne]

The Israelis have kept bulldozing places, erecting walls and taking over territory over the years. The world stood by and let it happen because of not wanting to be labelled anti-semite, or perhaps they turned a blind eye due to the history of the holocaust.

Perfect example of ignorance of history.

[stryder]

The Israelis have kept bulldozing places, erecting walls and taking over territory over the years.  The world stood by and let it happen because of not wanting to be labelled anti-semite, or perhaps they turned a blind eye due to the history of the holocaust. 

Perfect example of ignorance of history.

You mean like the history of when the Jews were banned(Kicked out) from that part of the world, left to wander Europe (and likely acted as carriers of the Blackdeath)
It's part of the reason there was anti-semite's at that point, since death tended to follow them.

[Syne]

The Israelis have kept bulldozing places, erecting walls and taking over territory over the years.  The world stood by and let it happen because of not wanting to be labelled anti-semite, or perhaps they turned a blind eye due to the history of the holocaust. 

Perfect example of ignorance of history.

You mean like the history of when the Jews were banned(Kicked out) from that part of the world, left to wander Europe (and likely acted as carriers of the Blackdeath)
It's part of the reason there was anti-semite's at that point, since death tended to follow them.

Another perfect example of ignorance of history, where antisemitism in Europe predated the migration of Jews, who were then scapegoated.

[stryder]

Another perfect example of ignorance of history, where antisemitism in Europe predated the migration of Jews, who were then scapegoated.

I think you'll find it's not ignorance to see what happened in history, it's ignorance to ignore history and keep repeating the same mistakes.

[Syne]

Anti-Semitism was widespread in the 14th century, and in some locales, the plague was stated to be the work of Jews as retribution for the dying's wicked ways. Harbouring "enemies of Christ" was also given as a reason. ... Communities that valued the work of Jews in the city more, saw less persecution, and those that did not value it saw more.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutio...ath#Causes

Yes, antisemitism existed long before Jews were blamed for the Black Death in the mid-14th century. The persecution of Jews for the plague was an escalation of deeply rooted anti-Jewish attitudes that had existed for centuries, with roots in both ancient and medieval history.
- Google AI

[confused2]

Trump and Netanyahu Announce 20-Point Gaza Peace Plan..
Israel has already agreed. I believe that the plan was drawn up in consultation with various Arab states, such as Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf states.
So all that remains is for Hamas to agree.

Is there any progress?