Trump's imaginary "War"

Yazata Offline
One either supports the principle of the strikes or one doesn't.

If we support the principle, then presumably we would support both Obama and Trump doing the same thing.

If we oppose the principle, then presumably we would oppose both Obama and Trump doing the same thing.

Supporting Obama while opposing Trump when they do the same thing, appears motivated more by political bias than by principle.
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Syne Offline
(Dec 29, 2025 09:05 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Why can't you manage the slightest criticism of Obama for the exact same thing?

Why should I? It happened 11 years ago. What's the point of complaining now?

Ahem:
(Dec 29, 2025 02:35 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: The idea of the "war on terrorism" (and by extension on "terrorists") came out of the Bush administration in response to 911, which granted a much freer use of deadly force for our forces in trying to prevent terrorism.
You sure don't seem to mind complaining about something from over 20 years ago. 9_9
At worst, partisan bias, at best, it's like a Christian who doesn't know anything about the Bible, where lazy blind faith seems to suffice.

If that's who you want to be, you be you. Wink
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Magical Realist Online
Quote:You sure don't seem to mind complaining about something from over 20 years ago. 9_9

Not a complaint at all. Just a statement of fact. Unless you are saying stating any fact of history is automatically a complaint about it, it was a totally sensible contribution to the overall point of that post.
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Syne Offline
If you think so. 9_9
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Magical Realist Online
Pretty sure these service members are ready for some leave time with their families..

"President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he is removing National Guard troops from Chicago, Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon, following a major setback at the Supreme Court.

“We will come back, perhaps in a much different and stronger form, when crime begins to soar again — Only a question of time!” Trump said on Truth Social.

The Supreme Court last week declined an emergency request from the Trump administration that said the troops were necessary to protect federal agents working in Chicago to enforce immigration policies.

In an unsigned order, the court rejected the administration's claim that circumstances on the ground in Illinois met the criteria for the president to invoke a federal law allowing him to call up the National Guard to federal service.

“At this preliminary stage, the Government has failed to identify a source of authority that would allow the military to execute the laws in Illinois,” the court ruled.

The decision involved only Chicago, but it was likely to strengthen other challenges to National Guard deployments. It does not affect the District of Columbia, where troops have also been deployed, as it is a federal district, not a state.

A spokesperson for California Gov. Gavin Newsom — a Democrat — said in an email Wednesday: "We won in court and forced him to. Trump’s rambling here is the political version of 'you can’t fire me, I quit.'"

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, also a Democrat, said on X that "Donald Trump's lying again."

"He lost in court when Illinois stood up against his attempt to militarize American cities with the National Guard. Now Trump is forced to stand down," Pritzker said.

Democratic Gov. Tina Kotek of Oregon said in an emailed statement that "my office has not yet received official notification that the remaining federalized Oregon National Guard troops can return home."

"They were never lawfully deployed to Portland and there was no need for their presence," Kotek said. "If President Trump has finally chosen to follow court orders and demobilize our troops, that’s a big win for Oregonians and for the rule of law."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-a...rcna251746
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