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Magical Realist
Feb 9, 2025 10:36 PM
(Feb 9, 2025 10:22 PM)Syne Wrote: Again:
Using hypnosis to extract hidden or vague memories may not be reliable. Although there is a widespread belief that hypnosis produces accurate memories, researchers found that hypnosis does not work well as a memory-recovery method. In addition, people who have been hypnotized tend to feel confident that their memories are accurate, contributing to the persistence of false memories.
- https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/w...n/hypnosis
We're not talking about hypnotically recovered memories. We're talking the majority of abduction experiences vividly remembered right after they happened. Keep up with them thread..
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Feb 9, 2025 10:37 PM
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(Feb 7, 2025 11:39 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The case involves 3 women in Stanford KY in 1976 all of whom witnessed the craft land near their vehicle, experienced an hour and a half of missing time, and later recounted thru hypnotic regression the same medical examination performed upon them while lying on a table. They had red marks on their bodies as well as burning eyes and a strong thirst. All three passed lie detector tests.. -_-
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Feb 9, 2025 11:16 PM
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(Feb 9, 2025 10:37 PM)Syne Wrote: (Feb 7, 2025 11:39 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The case involves 3 women in Stanford KY in 1976 all of whom witnessed the craft land near their vehicle, experienced an hour and a half of missing time, and later recounted thru hypnotic regression the same medical examination performed upon them while lying on a table. They had red marks on their bodies as well as burning eyes and a strong thirst. All three passed lie detector tests.. -_-
Again, we were talking about cases where recent trauma is vividly remembered, not hypnotically recovered memories. Refer to post #7 and #9. You even confirmed you understood this in post #6. So when I refuted your claim, you had to backpeddle to recovered memories again.
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Feb 10, 2025 12:18 AM
I've been talking about your OP this whole time. Don't whine about you trying to Gish gallop your way out of your own OP.
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Feb 10, 2025 12:31 AM
(Feb 8, 2025 09:22 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: 6 points: All three women reported seeing the UFO landing near their car in the road before their therapy session. All three women reported being in the car and missing time of up to an hour and a half. All three had red marks on their bodies and burning eyes. All three reported the same medical examinations under hypnosis. Their account matches that of thousands of reported abduction cases that occurred from the 60's to the 90's. Regression therapy works and has been proven as an effective way of recovering repressed memories. So no, not a hoax or fabrication at all.
All I asked was whether there was any proof the 3 women were not under post hypnotic suggestion, probably administered some time prior to the alleged abduction date. I think as the claimant it is your duty to at least eliminate that possibility, if only as the first step to giving some credibility to the event. I guess proof we can trust the abductees before they become the news.
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Feb 10, 2025 12:53 AM
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Quote:All I asked was whether there was any proof the 3 women were not under post hypnotic suggestion, probably administered some time prior to the alleged abduction date.
Can't really prove a negative very well. Any proof they were all hypnotized somehow? When? At the restaurant by the waitress? Why? How could they all hallucinate the same thing driving along the road with no hypnotist present? Do you know how hypnotism works? As usual your explanations are more far fetched than the actual reported cause.
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Feb 10, 2025 04:27 AM
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(Feb 10, 2025 12:53 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:All I asked was whether there was any proof the 3 women were not under post hypnotic suggestion, probably administered some time prior to the alleged abduction date.
Can't really prove a negative very well. Any proof they were all hypnotized somehow? When? At the restaurant by the waitress? Why? How could they all hallucinate the same thing driving along the road with no hypnotist present? Do you know how hypnotism works? As usual your explanations are more far fetched than the actual reported cause.
Would it not be important for the reader to know everything was done to prove there is no doubt to the story? At least an indication of the mental state of all three prior to visit from ET. Perhaps some expert testimony on the subject.
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Feb 10, 2025 04:41 AM
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Lacking any evidence for a hoax or of some outrageous stunt of "group hypnosis", why should any effort be wasted trying to disprove it? What is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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