One of the most compelling alien abduction cases of all time

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Magical Realist Offline
The case involves 3 women in Stanford KY in 1976 all of whom witnessed the craft land near their vehicle, experienced an hour and a half of missing time, and later recounted thru hypnotic regression the same medical examination performed upon them while lying on a table. They had red marks on their bodies as well as burning eyes and a strong thirst. All three passed lie detector tests..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__iR6RddsTI
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Zinjanthropos Offline
The women told their story through hypnosis. Now normally I don’t finished my dinner at 11:15 pm in Hicksville . Did anyone check to see if there was a hypnotist at this restaurant, perhaps the entertainment who put the alien abduction suggestion in the heads of these gals? Or even some other night or venue. Seems they were easy subjects. Just take some clowns word that hypnotic regression worked on all 3, same story, blah blah.
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Magical Realist Offline
6 points: All three women reported seeing the UFO landing near their car in the road before their therapy session. All three women reported being in the car and missing time of up to an hour and a half. All three had red marks on their bodies and burning eyes. All three reported the same medical examinations under hypnosis. Their account matches that of thousands of reported abduction cases that occurred from the 60's to the 90's. Regression therapy works and has been proven as an effective way of recovering repressed memories. So no, not a hoax or fabrication at all.
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Syne Offline

Hypnotherapy is generally not considered to be based on scientific evidence, and is rarely recommended in clinical practice guidelines.

Psychological research shows that interviews can be carried out in a way that people can easily acquire false memories.
- wiki

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Quote:Psychological research shows that interviews can be carried out in a way that people can easily acquire false memories.

And yet thousands of witnesses experience the same abduction memory. Most are even vividly remembered without hypnosis. I hardly think those are all being implanted by devious therapists. Interestingly, many abductees suffer radiation sickness for weeks afterwards. If that ain't scientific evidence, I don't know what is.

4 more compelling abduction cases:

https://www.thecollector.com/famous-alie...on-claims/

10 more strange abduction cases, including human mutilations!

https://vocal.media/futurism/10-true-sto...-believing
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Syne Offline
Many people are highly suggestible without any hypnosis at all, including adopting false memories.
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Magical Realist Offline
(Feb 9, 2025 06:30 AM)Syne Wrote: Many people are highly suggestible without any hypnosis at all, including adopting false memories.

I've never heard of people who just underwent a vivid and traumatic experience and then had a false memory of something else happening instead. It just doesn't happen. Strong emotions and pain tend to imprint the recent experience accurately on the memory. False memories otoh are usually concocted about things that happened many years ago in the vagueness of their childhood.
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Syne Offline
Really? Whitley Strieber talks about it a lot in Communion, where he claims he had "false memories" of seeing owls.

Trauma is actually a strong contributor to false memories:

We conducted a review of the literature on false memory effects in participants with PTSD, a history of trauma, or depression. When emotional associative material was presented to these groups, their levels of false memory were raised relative to those in relevant comparison groups.
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5665161/


There's also a lesser form of memory amplification/distortion, also associated with trauma:

People’s memories for traumatic events are – like their memories for more mundane events – easily distorted. Importantly, memory distortion for traumatic events appears to follow a particular pattern: people tend to remember more trauma than they experienced, a phenomenon referred to as “memory amplification.”
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4337233/

In fact, converging evidence demonstrates that experiences of trauma, whether a single event (e.g., a sexual assault) or a sustained stressful experience that might involve multiple trauma types (e.g., experiences at war) are also vulnerable to memory distortion.
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blo...distortion


You'd think that one of these days you'd learn better than to constantly talk out of your ass.
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Magical Realist Offline
Those studies you cited are dealing specifically with memories of trauma that happened years ago. I'm talking about trauma that has just happened. And false memories of trauma that has just happened doesn't happen. Recent traumatic experiences are always much stronger and more indelible than normal experiences. This is just common sense and basic science. And it's the reason for PTSD, where victims of trauma continue to experience the memory of their trauma just as vividly as if it just happened. And when thousands of people report the same traumatic experience of being abducted by aliens, then it's much more likely it was real than a false memory they just made up. And in the OP the three women reported the same exact experience. They are not going to have the same memory if it is just a false memory.

"In a recent New York Times op-ed, one psychiatrist wrote, "Neuroscience research tells us that memories formed under the influence of intense emotion are indelible in the way that memories of a routine day are not." Dr. Ted Huey, a professor of psychiatry and neurology at Columbia University, agrees with that assessment of memories.

Huey told "CBS This Morning" there is a misconception that emotion and trauma are bad for memory. But he explains, "The way our brain tags what's important to be remembered is emotion."

An example of this phenomenon would be that most people can clearly remember the morning of September 11, 2001 – an emotionally charged day for most – but have no clue what they were doing the morning of September 8, 2001."

"If an event elicits an emotional reaction in us, then it's more likely to make it into our memory. "Things that have more emotional significance tend to get more encoded," he says.

And when something elicits an intense negative emotion, like a trauma, it's even more likely to be encoded in the brain.

"The stress hormones, cortisol, norepinephrine, that are released during a terrifying trauma tend to render the experience vivid and memorable, especially the central aspect, the most meaningful aspects of the experience for the victim," says Richard McNally, a psychologist at Harvard University and the author of the book Remembering Trauma.

That's because a high-stress state "alters the function of the hippocampus and puts it into a super-encoding mode," says Hopper, especially early on during an event. And "the central details [of the event] get burned into their memory and they may never forget them."

Regarding owls remembered during abduction experiences, these are alleged to be examples of "screen memories, images psychically implanted in the mind of the abductees to cover up the real alien memory. See: https://www.vice.com/en/article/for-ufo-...they-seem/
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Syne Offline
Again:

Using hypnosis to extract hidden or vague memories may not be reliable. Although there is a widespread belief that hypnosis produces accurate memories, researchers found that hypnosis does not work well as a memory-recovery method. In addition, people who have been hypnotized tend to feel confident that their memories are accurate, contributing to the persistence of false memories.
- https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/w...n/hypnosis

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