Great critiques of leftist ideology

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Syne Wrote:If someone were intellectually honest enough to steel-man the argument, they wouldn't be cherry-picking the most extreme consequence as a reason to dismiss the entire argument.

Syne Wrote:.. better for an abused wife to be beaten to death rather than use an "evil" gun in self-defense.
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Syne Offline
^^ See. Completely incapable of substantive argument. Just playing the tu quoque fallacy.

Morons don't recognize the difference between cherry-picking and taking something to its logical conclusion.
Otherwise, it would be very simple to tell us how a victim of domestic violence is expected to handle a deadly situation.
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(Dec 14, 2024 09:41 PM)C C Wrote: What people don't understand is that that's actually a bad argument. Even if it's true that God exists and God is telling you that you should do _X_, the problem is it's just not very convincing. It's not actually a good argument, it's really just an appeal to authority. It doesn't actually explain why it is true, and in presuppositional apologetics they're just justifying circular reasoning to use that kind of reasoning.

[...] I'm really glad you're saying this, because you're getting on to my next point. That not only is radical postmodernism effectively just presuppositional apologetics for secular people, it's actually worse. Because presuppositional apologetics at least tries to foot itself in the door. Saying, okay we can't use reason, but our God can. We get our source of reason from God.

But in the case of postmodernism and radical postmodernism, they get their source of reasoning from nowhere. So the religious argument of presuppositional apologetics at least has some kind of basis up high in the sky, whereas radical postmodernism has no basis whatsoever.

It completely is self-defeating -- they're [roundaboutly] admitting that they're wrong, but they're admitting that they're wrong in a way that's thousands and thousands of pages of word salad. You only realize why they're wrong when you take the whole thing in one gulp, and you realize -- wait a minute, this is just one big massive contradiction [using logic to dismiss logic]...

Perhaps God is the ultimate goal of our logical meanderings. Destined to plague our psyche for all eternity. Even after our bodies expire.
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