Article  Trump kicks Labour Party: 'blatant foreign interference' in US election? (UK style)

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Donald Trump files complaint against Labour Party over 'blatant foreign interference' in the US election
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ction.html

EXCERPTS: Donald Trump put his relationship with Sir Keir Starmer under strain last night after accusing the 'far-left' Labour Party of 'blatant foreign interference' in the US election.

Lawyers for the Republican presidential candidate have filed a complaint to the Federal Election Commission, accusing Labour of making 'illegal foreign campaign contributions' which was 'accepted' by Kamala Harris's campaign.

The comments come weeks after Mr Trump and Sir Keir held a two-hour dinner in New York, after which the former president said the Prime Minister was 'very popular'.

Mr Trump's camp cited a now-deleted post on LinkedIn by Sofia Patel, Labour's head of operations, which said 100 current and former staffers were going to be volunteering in battleground states such as North Carolina and Nevada.

Rules about foreigners working in US elections are strict and state that they must volunteer and cannot receive any payment.

[...] It also references a report in the Washington Post that suggested 'strategists linked to Britain's Labour Party have been offering advice to Kamala Harris about how to earn back disaffected voters and run a winning campaign from the centre left'.

The complaint also mentioned reports that Morgan McSweeney, the PM's chief of staff, and Matthew Doyle, Downing Street's director of communications, met with Ms Harris's team at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago over the summer.

Mr Trump harked back to America's Declaration of Independence from British rule in 1776 and said that the UK appeared to have 'forgotten' that the US wanted to be free.. (MORE - missing details)


UK warns Russian strikes on Black Sea delay grain supplies to Gaza, global south
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-825778

EXCERPTS: Russia's increased attacks on the Black Sea ports in Ukraine are delaying vital aid reaching Gaza and stopping crucial grain supplies from being delivered to the global south, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said late on Tuesday.

[...] According to Starmer's statement, the Russian strikes are believed to have delayed a ship departing Ukraine while carrying vegetable oil destined for the World Food Programme in Gaza, vessels with grain destined for Egypt, and World Food Programme shipments bound for southern Africa.

Ukraine is a major global wheat and corn grower. Before Russia's invasion in 2022, the country exported about six million tons of grain alone per month via the Black Sea. Despite the ongoing war, grain sales remain a crucial revenue source for the country... (MORE - missing details)
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(Oct 23, 2024 01:33 AM)C C Wrote: Donald Trump files complaint against Labour Party over 'blatant foreign interference' in the US election
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ction.html

EXCERPTS: Donald Trump put his relationship with Sir Keir Starmer under strain last night after accusing the 'far-left' Labour Party of 'blatant foreign interference' in the US election.

Lawyers for the Republican presidential candidate have filed a complaint to the Federal Election Commission, accusing Labour of making 'illegal foreign campaign contributions' which was 'accepted' by Kamala Harris's campaign.

The comments come weeks after Mr Trump and Sir Keir held a two-hour dinner in New York, after which the former president said the Prime Minister was 'very popular'.

Mr Trump's camp cited a now-deleted post on LinkedIn by Sofia Patel, Labour's head of operations, which said 100 current and former staffers were going to be volunteering in battleground states such as North Carolina and Nevada.

Rules about foreigners working in US elections are strict and state that they must volunteer and cannot receive any payment.

[...] It also references a report in the Washington Post that suggested 'strategists linked to Britain's Labour Party have been offering advice to Kamala Harris about how to earn back disaffected voters and run a winning campaign from the centre left'.

The complaint also mentioned reports that Morgan McSweeney, the PM's chief of staff, and Matthew Doyle, Downing Street's director of communications, met with Ms Harris's team at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago over the summer.

Mr Trump harked back to America's Declaration of Independence from British rule in 1776 and said that the UK appeared to have 'forgotten' that the US wanted to be free.. (MORE - missing details)


Trump's 2016 election utilised Cambridge Analytica to manipulate the populous throughout his campaign. Funnily enough Cambridge Analytica Ltd was a British Company. So it could be said that Trump in the election he won used "Foreign Election Interference" to win, which means technically he shouldn't be allowed to run now.

Further to that there is also the question of whether Cambridge Analytica's assets were seized or destroyed, considering the nature of the Algorithms used required using a Social Network to manipulate the masses. Funnily enough Trump started his own "Truth Network" which makes me at least question whether there is Cambridge Analytica intellectual property being used within the social network itself.

One last thing, what normal person needs a "Fixer"? Fixers are only really used by those that do something criminal requiring a fix, so wouldn't a fixer prove Trump guilty of something?
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Hiring a private company to consult is not election interference.
Foreign politicians literally helping a US candidate is election interference.
You know, as opposed to a private company being paid for a service.
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(Oct 23, 2024 11:23 PM)Syne Wrote: Hiring a private company to consult is not election interference.
Foreign politicians literally helping a US candidate is election interference.
You know, as opposed to a private company being paid for a service.

You must of missed that Steve Bannon was a former vice president to that company, and he originally was "Chief Strategist" for Trump which would make that conflict of interest.
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I'd say any foreign national interfering in an election should (where possible) be detained [at least] until the election is over. Other charges may follow but get them out of the game.
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Syne Offline
(Oct 23, 2024 11:43 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Oct 23, 2024 11:23 PM)Syne Wrote: Hiring a private company to consult is not election interference.
Foreign politicians literally helping a US candidate is election interference.
You know, as opposed to a private company being paid for a service.

You must of missed that Steve Bannon was a former vice president to that company, and he originally was "Chief Strategist" for Trump which would make that conflict of interest.

Bannon's stake in Cambridge Analytica was estimated at $1–5 million, but he sold his stake in the company once he joined the Trump administration in April 2017.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bann..._Analytica


That's called divesting from a conflict of interest.

Between calling hiring a private company election interference and calling divestiture a conflict of interest, it really doesn't seem like you know what the words you use mean.
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(Oct 24, 2024 02:20 AM)Syne Wrote: Between calling hiring a private company election interference and calling divestiture a conflict of interest, it really doesn't seem like you know what the words you use mean.

Didn't Obama do something similar with Facebook?
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Syne Wrote:Hiring a private company to consult is not election interference.
If the private company has no raison d'être other than election interference ..
Quote:In March 2018, media outlets broke news of Cambridge Analytica's business practices. The New York Times and The Observer reported that the company had acquired and used personal data about Facebook users from an external researcher who had told Facebook he was collecting it for academic purposes.[29] Shortly afterwards, Channel 4 News aired undercover investigative videos showing Nix boasting about using prostitutes, bribery sting operations, and honey traps to discredit politicians on whom it had conducted opposition research, and saying that the company "ran all of (Donald Trump's) digital campaign".
More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica

Under the circumstances I'd guess anything true is unlikely to be written on paper and anything written on paper is unlikely to be true.
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Syne Offline
(Oct 24, 2024 02:47 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Oct 24, 2024 02:20 AM)Syne Wrote: Between calling hiring a private company election interference and calling divestiture a conflict of interest, it really doesn't seem like you know what the words you use mean.

Didn't Obama do something similar with Facebook?
Apparently: Funny, When Obama Harvested Facebook Data On Millions Of Users To Win In 2012, Everyone Cheered


(Oct 24, 2024 11:57 AM)confused2 Wrote:
Syne Wrote:Hiring a private company to consult is not election interference.
If the private company has no raison d'être other than election interference ..
It's called opposition research, as your below quote states. That's not election interference either.
Seriously, I do not think that word means what you think it means.

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Quote:In March 2018, media outlets broke news of Cambridge Analytica's business practices. The New York Times and The Observer reported that the company had acquired and used personal data about Facebook users from an external researcher who had told Facebook he was collecting it for academic purposes.[29] Shortly afterwards, Channel 4 News aired undercover investigative videos showing Nix boasting about using prostitutes, bribery sting operations, and honey traps to discredit politicians on whom it had conducted opposition research, and saying that the company "ran all of (Donald Trump's) digital campaign".
More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica
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Consultant? Okay it is just playing with words. Putin employs consultants to find out how people react to hitting the ground at high speed. How could employing consultants ever be a bad thing?
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