Trump spreads lies about Federal hurricane disaster relief

#31
confused2 Offline
As far as I can make out it isn't even as sophisticated as smoke and mirrors .. there's folk that will believe anything Trump says and there's folk that just aren't on message. You either have ring-fenced funds or you don't - playing word games doesn't change that.
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#32
C C Offline
(Oct 10, 2024 01:09 AM)confused2 Wrote: As far as I can make out it isn't even as sophisticated as smoke and mirrors .. there's folk that will believe anything Trump says and there's folk that just aren't on message. You either have ring-fenced funds or you don't - playing word games doesn't change that.

Trump usually gets whatever he's carrying on about from the Wall Street Journal, the Daily Mail, Fox News digital, the New York Post, Breitbart, Washington Examiner, the Daily Caller and Newsmax.

Months ago, he probably remembered one of them highlighting the $650 million below, and seized the opportunity in early October to conflate FEMA's Shelter Services Program (SSP) with its Disaster Relief Fund (DRF). FEMA itself is an agency of Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

So _X_ information may originally be legit, but gets tweaked or rearranged in memory over the intervening interval.
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Shelter and Services Program (SSP) FY2024 Funding (April 17, 2024): "In FY2024, funding for the SSP is separated into two funding opportunities, totaling $640.9 million. The remaining $9.1 million is for FEMA’s administrative costs."

(April 12, 2024) Department of Homeland Security announces $300 Million in direct funding to communities receiving migrants and $340 million for a new competitive awards process
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20240...ct-funding

Today, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), through FEMA and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), announced $300 million in grants through the Shelter and Services Program (SSP), which was authorized by Congress to support communities that are providing services to migrants. Two hundred seventy-five million dollars will be distributed in the first allocation, and the remaining $25 million will be allocated later in the year to accommodate evolving operational requirements. The initial funding will be available to 55 grant recipients for temporary shelter and other eligible costs associated with migrants awaiting the outcome of their immigration proceedings. Additionally, DHS is announcing $340.9 million through the Shelter and Services Program-Competitive grant program to be allocated before the end of this fiscal year. 
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(July 8, 2024) FEMA's Shelter and Services Program funding increased from $363.8 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national...c6020.html
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#33
C C Offline
Political campaigns are not refereed. As Quentin Tarantino remarked over a month ago with regard to questioning Kamala's tactics -- even the goal of Democrats is to win, not to play fair. Just win! Run trick plays, fool the opposing team and onlooking crowd - whatever. Just win, Kammie! Just win, Donnie!

https://youtu.be/eyIFDAgNa0Q

VIDEO EXCERPTS: This is about winning. What most people don't give the Democrats enough credit for all, but we give the the Republicans credit for, is that sometimes it's just about winning. And it doesn't matter how. It's about winning. [...] I'm going to vote for her [Kamala] anyway no matter what she says in a stupid interview.

Bill Maher getting a lecture from Quentin Tarantino about questioning Kamala Harris’ tactics

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/eyIFDAgNa0Q
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#34
Syne Offline
(Oct 11, 2024 12:09 AM)C C Wrote: Shelter and Services Program (SSP) FY2024 Funding (April 17, 2024): "In FY2024, funding for the SSP is separated into two funding opportunities, totaling $640.9 million. The remaining $9.1 million is for FEMA’s administrative costs."
Why can no one show appropriations specific for the SSP? Here, the link claims to be talking about the SSP, but The DHS Appropriations Act, 2024 it cites, has no mention of the that program by name. The only mention of the word "shelter" says:

(10) $130,000,000 for the emergency food and shelter program under title III of the McKinney-Vento Homeless Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 11331), to remain available until September 30, 2025: Provided, That not to exceed 3.5 percent shall be for total administrative costs.
- https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-cong.../4367/text


So where is the "Shelter and Services Program" - "emergency food and shelter program" equivalence established? Was the former only established after the funding was appropriated for the latter?

Why is it so hard for anyone making this argument to simply show how and where the funds were specifically appropriated for the SSP?
From what's been offered, it looks like the only source for the claim of completely separate funding is only coming directly from the Biden-Harris administration, as they control both FEMA and the DHS. No one can show any independent corroboration from Congress.

Quote:(April 12, 2024) Department of Homeland Security announces $300 Million in direct funding to communities receiving migrants and $340 million for a new competitive awards process
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20240...ct-funding

Today, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), through FEMA and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), announced $300 million in grants through the Shelter and Services Program (SSP), which was authorized by Congress to support communities that are providing services to migrants. Two hundred seventy-five million dollars will be distributed in the first allocation, and the remaining $25 million will be allocated later in the year to accommodate evolving operational requirements. The initial funding will be available to 55 grant recipients for temporary shelter and other eligible costs associated with migrants awaiting the outcome of their immigration proceedings. Additionally, DHS is announcing $340.9 million through the Shelter and Services Program-Competitive grant program to be allocated before the end of this fiscal year. 

As far as I can tell, Congress never set a specific appropriation amount for the SSP. It appears this was determined solely by the DHS in the Biden-Harris administration.
If this is the case, it is completely fair to criticize their priorities in distributing the funding. And it does nothing to prove that the funding wasn't fungible.


Considering much of that SSP money went to Democrat-controlled cities, it looks more and more like embezzlement.
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#35
Syne Offline
Nothing better, huh? Just Biden-Harris agencies telling you what Biden-Harris want them to say.
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