Elon Musk says he’s a ‘cultural Christian’: Why non-theists pragmatically adopt it

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Elon Musk says he’s a ‘cultural Christian’ – why some leading thinkers are embracing Christianity
https://theconversation.com/elon-musk-sa...ity-233601

INTRO: The world’s richest person, Elon Musk, just announced that he’s a “big believer in the principles of Christianity” and “a cultural Christian”. Musk’s reasons are moral and political – he believes Christianity can boost both happiness and birthrates.

Musk joins many western conservative thinkers troubled by a rapidly changing world. Some of these thinkers have embraced Christianity to combat these changes. Yet they often struggle to accept Christianity’s central supernatural claims, like Christ’s resurrection.

Adopting Christianity at least partly as a way to achieve political ends could backfire. However, such thinkers may have another option. If we can have coffee without caffeine and beer without alcohol, why not Christianity without miracles? Could conservative thinkers embrace “Christianity-lite” and still achieve their aims? As an academic who has examined the meeting point between religion and psychology, I find this an intriguing question.

In conservative intellectual circles, the receding tide of Christianity is turning. For some, the appeal is aesthetic. The prominent atheist, Richard Dawkins, calls Christianity’s core claims “obvious nonsense”, but he still identifies as a “cultural Christian” because he enjoys hymns and cathedrals.

Others see moral value in Christianity. The British conservative commentator Douglas Murray calls himself a “Christian atheist”, rejecting key Christian beliefs, but valuing its moral ideas like the “sanctity of the individual”. US psychologist and media personality Jordan Peterson acts “as if” God exists because for him, it provides meaning, purpose and order.

Some see political value in Christianity. Dawkins values it as “a bulwark against Islam”. Musk thinks it can increase birthrates and prevent population collapse.

When writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali converted to Christianity, she cited political reasons, claiming Christianity was the only way the west could combat “wokeness”, Islam and authoritarian regimes. She later clarified: “I choose to believe that Jesus rose from the dead”, yet added, “what is even more real for me is the wisdom in that story, the morality”... (MORE - more details)
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I have found as I get older and less moralistic that I have a strong value for being kind and compassionate and empathic. It's not something that came naturally for me, being by nature rather cold and analytical and impersonal. Over the years I have learned that being judgemental and opinionated at the expense of respecting the dignity and value of others only got me into trouble and wasted alot of time and energy that I'd rather not expend. It's just easier to not judge and condemn and disagree. I didn't need Jesus in my life to be a good person after all.
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I can't relate to the "militant atheism" of the classic left, and its replacement worship of Marxist descended ideologies.[1]

And it appears that progressives are gradually becoming champions of Islam and will be incrementally subsumed by it eventually -- both as legit converts and merely "cultural Muslims". (A smaller percentage might also gravitate identity-wise toward Hinduism.)

In contrast, non-victim Christianity cannot benefit from the decolonization of knowledge movement, because it was a cohort of the Western World and the latter's subjugation and oppression of indigenous peoples and rival regions.

So akin to how Thomas Jefferson was a "philosophical Christian" who stripped away the supernatural stuff in his edited NT, I guess I'm a cultural Christian from the standpoint of it being one of the roadblocks hindering assimilation by other religious and ideological agencies. It's also the belief orientation I grew up under and am still surrounded by, and know how to relate to.

In appeasing those deities, a "groveling to Allah and any pluralistic gods further east" probably involves more daily rituals and extended ceremonies than a rehabilitated religion (like Christianity). So give me a secular identification with that amended, lesser "nuisance" I know something about and can more or less successfully navigate and weave around.

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[1] George Bernard Shaw: All they want to know is; Am I orthodox? Am I correct in my revolutionary views? Am I reverent to the revolutionary authorities? Because I am a genuine free-thinker... They ask "Do you believe that Marx was omniscient and infallible; that Engels was his prophet; that Bebel and Singer are his inspired apostles; and that Das Kapital is the Bible?" ... Thus, you may see that when [...one...] by becoming a Social-Democrat, throws off all the bonds of convention, and stands free from all allegiance to established religion, law, order, patriotism, and learning, he promptly uses his freedom to put on a headier set of chains.
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I guess I’m a cultural Xian too. I thank them because I took advantage of every statuatory holiday they ever concocted. And when I did have to work on those days I was paid double or a pay and a day in lieu. Thank God I’m an atheist and didn’t have to partake in anything ritual or ceremonial, just enjoy.
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CC Wrote:[cultural Christianity..] one of the roadblocks hindering assimilation by other religious and ideological agencies.

Yup. (Wish I'd been smart enough to have worked that out for myself)
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Conservatives, Republicans, and Christians have long needed to stake out a place in the culture. As Andrew Breitbart said, "politics is downstream of culture."
Whether genuine belief or not, it can only be a good thing that Christian values are finally competing against a largely leftist culture.
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